From jad@ckuxb.att.com Ukn Jan 22 08:05:02 1993 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA18853; Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:05:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9301221305.AA18853@css.itd.umich.edu> To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:03:23 EST From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Status: RO X-Status: Article 19523 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Subject: Part 5, LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell] Keywords: LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell] Message-ID: <1993Jan21.203104.23993@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! Lines: 142 Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JOHN STOCKWELL: Now, since the "Good War One," World War II, we've had the CIA's Secret Wars. We've had two serious wars: Korea and Vietnam. But we've had the CIA running its low-intensity conflicts, its secret wars around the Globe. A lot of them. I'll mention that, kind of in passing, tonight because we have so much ground to cover. We've been destabilizing target governments in every corner of the Globe. We set up a system of governing by oligarchies -- proxy government working through oligarchies in these countries who are permitted to become fabulously rich. This is the case in the Persian Gulf, the oil emirates who have a 0.5 percent of the population of billionaires and millionaires, and the rest of the people share less or none at all of the country's wealth. In Latin America, Central America, this same system is working. If the people don't like it, you organize the police into death squads as we've done in many countries including, conspicuously, El Salvador, and you kill enough of them that they are emasculated. They can't do anything about it. They are crippled. They are repressed and suppressed and oppressed, and you can get by with this system of milking the countries to your will and to your way. The [Sen. Frank] Church Committee of 1975 ..... Again this is not a lecture about the Secret Wars of the CIA. That's a separate lecture. I could give it again, but it takes a full hour in its own right. But you must know how the CIA weaves into this war complex -- this war machinery of ours. The Church Committee of 1975 investigated CIA "actions" and found that we had run -- if you extrapolate the figures -- about thirteen thousand-plus [covert operations] since we've had the CIA -- since World War II. Now, a lot of these are fairly benign, and some of them fairly trivial. But a lot of them are VERY violent, and some of them lead into wars. A long destabilization/propaganda campaign led us into the Korean War, and another one led us into the Vietnam War. Now, scholars, including myself, reading these things -- and we have so many of them in the public record that it's obviously very difficult to know exactly how many people died in Vietnam or in Korea or in Nicaragua or in the Congo -- but still, working with conservative figures we come up with a minimum figure of SIX MILLION PEOPLE killed in the Secret Wars of the CIA through its destabilizations over these past forty years: One million people killed in the Korean War; Two million people killed in Vietnam; One to two million people killed in Cambodia; Eight hundred thousand people killed in Indonesia; Fifty thousand people killed in Angola. Now that began with the war that I organized as Commander of the Angola Task Force, working for a subcommittee of the National Security Council in Washington in 1975 and 1976. Fifty thousand is the number that the Sandinistas and The New York Times pretty much agreed on were killed and wounded in Nicaragua in the ONE BILLION DOLLAR Contra destabilization in that country that we effected in the 1980s. Now, these six million [people killed from] CIA activities, are all part of the Cold War in which probably about TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE were killed. And that makes it the second or third bloodiest war in all of human history, which is saying a lot. I call it also the Third World War. You could call it the Forty Years War of the twentieth century. I call it the "Third World" War because when you analyze these things and read through them in the public record, which, again, is massively documented .... And by the way, the last third of this book [THE PRAETORIAN GUARD] is a bibliography of the best 120 books on the subject, organized to make it easy for you to access each one with a mini-review, so you can decide which book will be most interesting and useful to you, and what this theme is all about. [When you analyze these crimes] you find that we do not do these massive bloody things against the Soviet Union. Torture and death squads we do not run in England or Canada or Belgium or Sweden or Switzerland. They are, virtually all of them, done against countries of the Third World where the governments of those countries are not strong enough to prohibit us, to prevent us from brutalizing their people. The six million people killed are people of the Third World: people of the Mitumba Mountains of the Congo, and the jungles of Southeast Asia, and the hills of Nicaragua. And now, of course, the Middle Eastern deserts, in a new wrinkle on this system. The casualties in Nicaragua -- fifty thousand people -- they were not Russians. They were not Cubans. They were not even mostly Sandinistas. They were mostly rag-poor peasants, including a high percentage of women and children. Communists? They were mostly ROMAN CATHOLICS! Enemies of the United States? Nah. We had thousands of [W]witnesses [for Peace] who went down to live with them -- to see. And they invariably came back and told us that the Nicaraguan People are the warmest people on the face of the Earth. They couldn't understand [why], but the Nicaraguans love the United States -- the people from the United States; and that these people had trouble understanding why our Government would want to hire an army to send down there to brutalize them: to haul them out of their homes, and rape them, and slash off their breasts, and cut off their testicles while their children were forced to watch, which is what the Contra program did. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of documented cases. This is where I came up, then, in writing about the Angola War, with my thesis, the title of my first book: IN SEARCH OF ENEMIES. We were taking this war in Angola to people who did not want to be our enemies -- as we did in Vietnam -- as we did in Cuba and other places. The point of the CIA's activities is they .....ten thousand, thirteen thousand operations -- three thousand major, gory, bloody operations, killing six million people .... they [the CIA] have made the world unstable. The six million people each leave behind an average of perhaps five loved ones who are traumatically conditioned to violence, who will go on continuing violence and keeping the world unstable and violent for the rest of their lives. And in an unstable world that's brimming and teeming with violence, you can spend trillions of dollars on the arms that you could not spend if the world were, in fact, peaceful. [JD: Before we can stop our rulers' genocide, we have to recognize it! Here we have evidence that the Central Intelligence Agency of the Government of the People of the United States of America is three times more genocidal than Hitler's Nazi Third Reich, for, under the American People, our Central Intelligence Agency has led three Nazi holocausts. The CIA was the instigating catalyst for the extermination of twenty million people!] (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The America Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies instead of the bitter truth that would evoke remedial action by the People, then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism. So, please post the episodes of this ongoing series to computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. The need for concerned people, alerting their neighbors to overshadowing dangers, still exists, as it did in the era of Paul Revere. That need is as enduring as society itself. John DiNardo