From jad@ckuxb.att.com Ukn Jan 27 08:15:35 1993 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA19542; Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:15:33 -0500 Message-Id: <9301271315.AA19542@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:14 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: RO X-Status: Article 19525 of alt.conspiracy: From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Subject: Part 30, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software Keywords: CIA = Murder Inc., CIA desecrates the People's Constitution Message-ID: <1993Jan21.210503.24520@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Date: 21 Jan 93 21:05:03 GMT Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! Lines: 124 Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) PAUL DeRIENZO: There is conflict on these [deaths], but they are very suspicious. One actual murder that nobody will deny was that of Mr. Alvarez, the crusading member of the Cabazon Indians who opposed the .... HARRY MARTIN: Absolutely! And he was shot with two other people, execution style. Jimmy Hughes was a man who worked for Wackenhut and who was the bag-man to bring the money over [to pay for the contract murders of Fred Alvarez and company]. And he has testified to the Riverside County [California] District Attorney's office. He is now in hiding in Guatemala, of course. That's where Mr. Ng was down to see him. He also carried a lot of other information which was extremely damaging. We were able to talk to people who helped him escape, because he came up this way at first, and now he's down in Guatemala. The Indian situation itself is its own scandal. Then there's the Wackenhut Corporation, and you get into Inslaw .... Like I say, its just so wide you would need a massive computer just to do a chart. PAUL DeRIENZO: Can we focus now on Alvarez? Can you tell us that story? HARRY MARTIN: Alvarez was basically the head of the Cabazon Indians, and when Wackenhut and Dr. Brian and people came in to take over and create the gambling parlors and to convert the Inslaw software and to manufacture chemical warfare weapons and so forth, he protested. He wanted control of the Indian tribe back. And he was summarily executed. The money came from the people who were running that, according to the testimony of Jimmy Hughes, which is on file with the State of California in the Riverside County D.A.'s office. Incidentally now, after all these years they have finally reopened that case in Riverside because of the publicity associated with the Inslaw case. PAUL DeRIENZO: At first, there was a grand jury investigation and there were no indictments or suspects mentioned in that first investigation. HARRY MARTIN: And yet, Hughes testified to names, places, events, everything. PAUL DeRIENZO: Mr. John P. Nichols, who was at that time the head of the tribe and who now is an advisor to the Cabazon Indians, said that the death of Mr. Alvarez and two non-Indian companions, who were found shot to death with him, had nothing to do with what's going on in the Cabazon reservation. HARRY MARTIN: Yet, Jimmy Hughes has testified to the Riverside people that John Nichols is the one who gave him the money to deliver to the hit-man in Palm Springs. Also, Mr. John Nichols was later on convicted for murder-for-hire and his sons are now technically running the tribe. PAUL DeRIENZO: He was actually convicted rather than charged? I heard he was brought up on charges. But he was actually convicted of that? HARRY MARTIN: Absolutely. PAUL DeRIENZO: But Mr. Nichols seems to have a tremendous amount of support. >From what I understand, he's getting a lot of support from liberal figures such as James Aboureszk, the former senator from South Dakota. HARRY MARTIN: You have to understand, Mr. Nichols, by his own boasting and through other publications, indicates that he was involved in the assassination of [democratically elected President of Chile, Salvador] Allende, and he was involved in the attempted assassination of [Cuban Premier Fidel] Castro. His links as a C.I.A. contractor -- his links with the Mafia are well documented with the State of California. Therefore, obviously he's going to get some support from groups that are probably within that channel. ..... SAMORI MARKSMAN: Harry Martin, we'd like to thank you very much for joining us again here on WBAI. Any closing points that you would like to make? HARRY MARTIN: Well, just that Danny's concept of an "Octopus" .... you can see exactly what he was talking about. The tentacles went everywhere, and he seemed to be on the verge of breaking a lot of that information. And then all of his records, everything disappeared. And he died. To say that a journalist would commit suicide when he's on the verge of breaking a big story is ludicrous because anybody knowing a journalist knows that once they are on a drive, neither food nor anything else matters but to get that story across. He was very close to it, and you don't cash in the chips on the verge of winning the jackpot. SAMORI MARKSMAN: So true. Harry Martin, publisher of the Napa [California] Sentinel, thank you very much for joining us here on WBAI, non-commercial, listener-sponsored Pacifica Radio at 99.5 FM in New York City. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Transcribed by John DiNardo If we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience", if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less. .... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold back from this work. .... Like every one of our ancestors before us, we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness. M. Scott Peck THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED