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Subject: Part 9, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
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       EDITOR: John DiNardo                PUBLISHER: [your name (optional)] 
                                                                 

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                From the free airwaves of The People's         
                Pacifica Radio Network station:
                     WBAI-FM (99.5)
                     505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
                     New York, NY 10018
                       (212) 279-0707
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Part 9, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy
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GARY NULL:
I'm talking to you on location. I am two thousand miles away from
New York City. In a quest for new information and new evidence in
this investigation, I took a plane late last night and I am now in
the southern part of the United States. When this investigation is
completed, I'll be returning to New York. So please understand that
the technical quality will not be what it normally is because I am
talking to you from a telephone and not out of our regular broadcast
studios.

Let's go directly to the evidence at hand and let's start analyzing
this evidence and putting it together, piece by piece.  I'm going to
go directly to you, David. Let's begin with some of the evidence.

A major set of circumstances occurred with the autopsy that we
explained. And I want to come back to Doctor Wecht on that, but I
first want to talk about the fact that the body itself, when it left
Dallas on the airplane, did not have the various [surgical]
procedures done on it that were apparent when it arrived in
Bethesda.  And also, the fact that (and this is a VERY important
piece of evidence) THREE SEPARATE CASKETS had entered that hospital.

DAVID LIFTON:
I said two.

GARY NULL:
Two. But there was the circumstance of the same one being seen
twice: the bronze casket.

DAVID LIFTON:
Separate entries of two caskets. That's correct, according to the
evidence.

GARY NULL:
But the Public was led to believe that there was only one casket,
that the casket that the President's body was put into arrived at
Bethesda Naval Hospital hours later, and that the autopsy was
performed. And that was the end of the story. That's what the Warren
Commission was told. That's what we have been led to believe.

In point-of-fact, another casket, that actually contained the body
of the President, arrived.  Give us the circumstances surrounding
the arrival of that casket. What witnesses were there to acknowledge
that another casket arrived, that it was not the bronze casket, and
that the President's body was not in the same condition that it was
in when it left Dallas.

DAVID LIFTON:
Well, now these are two separate issues that you're addressing here.
One is the condition of the body and the other is the issue of
multiple caskets. Which would you like me to address first?

GARY NULL:
Begin with the different caskets.

DAVID LIFTON:
What I was able to show in BEST EVIDENCE (and I obtained reports
that had not been examined and, in fact, are not even in the
National Archives, as far as the Warren Commission Investigation
goes) is the report of the military casket team. In that casket 
team report (and I interviewed the men who were on the casket team)
..... Let's make sure we understand what the casket team is. These
are the pall bearers, the honor guard that met Air Force One when
it arrived on the night of November 22nd at Andrews Air Force Base.
This is a multi-service casket team consisting of Navy, Air Force,
Army and Coast Guard, and headed by a man named Lieutenant Samuel 
Byrd who subsequently died of wounds incurred in Vietnam.

These men described to me (in telephone interviews and, in one 
case, in an in-person interview in the year 1967; and it's hard to 
believe that it was so long ago: twenty-five years ago) what 
occurred at the front of Bethesda Naval Hospital when the Navy 
ambulance pulled up. That ambulance pulled up and they tried to 
follow that ambulance from seven o'clock when it arrived at the 
front of Bethesda until eight o'clock when they finally brought  
the coffin in. There is an hour, sort of a missing time in there.
Now, we can quibble over whether it's forty-five minutes, thirty-five 
minutes. But there's a serious incident in there where they attempt 
to follow the Navy ambulance, lose the ambulance, and are told by
their superiors that they have followed the decoy. There is a decoy
ambulance.  NONE of this made it into the Warren Commission Report.
It's ALL on my telephone interview tapes.  And their written report
says that they brought the big casket, which we all saw off-loaded
on TV, and the one that is supposed to contain the body .... they
brought that in at eight o'clock. That is their official written
report dated December (oh, I don't know) fifth or tenth, 1963.
                                                                 
Now, contrary to that evidence, I actually located the witnesses
who were at the back of the hospital, and who participated in
off-loading the vehicle and the casket in which the body actually
was in. And that was a black hearse which arrived at about ten
minutes `til seven, Eastern Time. That black hearse had two men in
O.R. smocks and a group of civilians. A shipping casket was brought
out of that hearse. Dennis David, who is in Chapter 25 of my book,
described the scene of his men off-loading that casket. Furthermore,
I have documentary evidence, which is in my book (it's actually at
the Gerald Ford Library now), that the arrival occurred at 6:50,
apparently. This is the shipping casket. It was brought into the
hospital. That shipping casket was opened by Paul O'Connor who was
the medical technician at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Inside that
shipping casket, according to O'Connor, the President's body was in
a body bag. He unzipped the body bag. That statement was accepted
and published by the House Select Committee: the fact that he
opened the President's body bag; that the body was in a body bag.
That's the information that the body did not arrive in the same
casket that it left Dallas in, even though, of course, the big
casket arrives at the front of the hospital.

Now, it so happens that the big casket enters twice: once at eight
o'clock, as I've just described in the casket scene. However, it
also enters at 7:14. That casket entry is documented in FBI
documents provided by FBI agents Seibert and O'Neill. So we have
three casket entries: the one in the shipping casket at 6:50 when,
apparently, the body arrived. Then there's this covert entry of the
big casket while the casket team is chasing around looking for it.
And that's apparently when the body was put back into the big
casket so that they could have an official casket opening at 8:00.
                       (to be continued)
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      For those readers who are concerned about the highly treasonous
      crimes routinely perpetrated by our U.S. Government officials 
      who are supposed to be public servants of the highest rectitude,
      please contact a public interest law group that has valiantly
      filed lawsuits charging the CIA with crimes of treason, narcotics  
      trafficking, terrorism and murder.  Please write or phone:

        William Davis
        The Christic Institute
        8773 Venice Blvd.
        Los Angeles, CA 90034
           (310)287-1556

                                John DiNardo

