From jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU Sat Oct 9 06:18:52 EDT 1993 Article: 32043 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: murdoch!hopper!jad From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 10, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.conspiracy, alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: Part 10, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: U.Va. Internet Public Access Project Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 08:38:19 GMT Lines: 173 ____ ____ ____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____ ---- ---- ---- T H E P E O P L E'S S P E L L B R E A K E R ____ ____ ____ ---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ---- ---- ---- DATE OF PRINTING PRICE: __ CENTS THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PEOPLE OF [your territory; example:] NORTHERN MINNESOTA * * * * * MORNING EDITION * * * * * EDITOR: John DiNardo PUBLISHER: [your name (optional)] ________________________________________ From the free airwaves of The People's Pacifica Radio Network station: WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 ________________________________________ Part 10, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This hocus-pocus is documented. I think any historian has to accept the fact that there are three documented entries. One can argue and say that it's all a matter of a mix-up of the paperwork. I think that that is highly unlikely in view of the other part of my case which involves actual alterations to the body. That's a separate issue. But on the area of the chain-of-possession, I want to tell you that when this material was run on San Francisco TV station KRON-TV, in a documentary in which I was a consultant, narrated by Sylvia Chase and produced by Stanhope Gould, Stanhope said to the San Francisco papers (and I was very pleased with this), he says: "David Lifton has courtroom evidence that the body did not make an uninterrupted journey from Dallas to Bethesda. Something happened. He interviewed these witnesses personally, on camera. He sat with them for hours in restaurants. They are credible." And unless one believes in some crazy theory of Maxwell's demons, and that reality went haywire that night, as it is supposed to have gone haywire in Dealy Plaza that afternoon, with all kinds of non-physical things occurring; you know, the head going the wrong way on the Zapruder Film, or witnesses not understanding where the shots came from ..... This is another episode at Bethesda that night. And I say that what we are witnessing is, in fact, an interruption in the chain-of-possession. A disguise was in force. The decoy ambulance business smells. And something happened that night. Now, in my book I try to explain what that something is. But focusing just on the microscopic here -- something happened. There are three documented entries of two caskets. GARY NULL: Okay. Now let's go! What do you think happened, and how is it significant to the conspiracy concept? DAVID LIFTON: Okay. In what I am now going to say, I'm not addressing the autopsy X-rays and photographs. I am addressing the descriptions of the body as recorded in the official documentation in the Bethesda autopsy report and testimony. Okay? Because the autopsy photos and X-rays are another issue -- and an important one -- and a separate issue. But to avoid confusion (on a radio program, we do not have visual aids), what I'm going to say to you is that in the legal record (and one of the accomplishments of my book was to demonstrate that the Bethesda medical record, based on the descriptions of the head wound, for example, is different from the Dallas medical record), the Dallas record described a 35 square centimeter hole in the back right-rear of the President's head, with a flap of scalp connected with that hole at the back -- a wound at the right-rear of the head. Okay? I documented that in my book. I showed that news accounts, starting with the press conference conducted within an hour of the time of death, when the two doctors Clark and Perry conducted a press conference at Parkland Hospital, with news interviews over the weekend, with testimony before the Warren Commission, with their medical reports -- it all points to the fact that the doctors in Dallas saw a hole at the right-rear of the head. Connected with that hole was a flap of scalp. They all thought that a bullet had exited from the right-rear of the head. When I say, "they all thought", let's say with one minor exception. But that's what their diagnosis was. And the brain was inside the head. It was not gone, or anything of that sort. There was severe damage. There was some brain tissue blown out. But it was not as if the President was in Dallas, Texas with an empty cranium. Now, that is the Dallas evidence. I refer anybody listening to this to Chapter 13 of my book ["BEST EVIDENCE"]. At the Bethesda end of the line, I personally think that the finest evidence there is a blood-stained diagram -- today at the National Archives. That blood- stained diagram, executed by Commander Boswell, one of it's autopsy surgeons, shows measurements ten-by-seventeen for the hole in the TOP of the President's head. Ten-by-seventeen is 170 square centimeters. That's FIVE times larger than the thirty-five square centimeters hole at Parkland. To use inches, at Parkland it was thought to be two and three-quarter inches across. At Bethesda it's seven or eight inches on the diagonal. In the official autopsy description, it was listed as thirteen centimeters across, which is still a mighty big hole. It was not what was seen in Dallas. Furthermore, specifically stated in the Bethesda report is that the scalp is entirely gone over that hole. There IS NO flap. It is just GONE! Now that huge crater in the top right-hand side of the head is described in the Bethesda autopsy report, and it conflicts with Dallas. Furthermore, two agents present -- FBI agents Seibert and O'Neill, again who are also connected with the coffin business; that is, in providing us with valuable information about that 7:14 entry -- two FBI agents report that when the body was removed from the casket in which it had been transported, and placed on the autopsy table, it was apparent that there had been surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull. NO such surgery was performed in Dallas. If the FBI statement is true (and that's a very critical question; it ought to be investigated by a special prosecutor) ..... if the FBI statement is true, then something happened to the body between Dallas and Bethesda. Now that is the evidence that something happened between Dallas and Bethdesda. And the consequence of that medical alteration -- if it occurred -- is that the Dallas doctors thought that something exited from the rear of the head. The Bethesda doctors thought that something entered from the rear and blew out the top. Was this a perfect medical forgery? Absolutely not! Did the [Bethesda] doctors recognize it [that the President's head had been surgically altered]? They did recognize it because the FBI documents that I've obtained under the Freedom of Information Act indicate that the FBI wrote down what the doctors said. So if I'm correct, my interpretation not only goes to what happened on the body, but what happened in the room. In other words, to paraphrase the old question from Watergate: "What did the doctors know, and when did they know it?" Well, according to the FBI, the doctors IMMEDIATELY, and I stress, immmediately recognized that there had been surgery of the head area, namely in the top of the skull. That's what I think the record shows in this case. This is not some kind of a perfect crime! It's a very SLOPPY crime. I think that a special prosecutor ought to question these doctors who are still alive. And they MUST be questioned before they pass on. I think that we would get STUNNING new information about this case because I personally interviewed one of the FBI agents, and I know that he's going to stand behind his statement, contrary to a foolish affidavit, excerpted in some weird fashion and published by Professor Blakey in a report in which they try to make it appear that the FBI agents said that this was not true. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * For those readers who are concerned about the highly treasonous crimes routinely perpetrated by our U.S. Government officials who are supposed to be public servants of the highest rectitude, please contact a public interest law group that has valiantly filed lawsuits charging the CIA with crimes of treason, narcotics trafficking, terrorism and murder. Please write or phone: William Davis The Christic Institute 8773 Venice Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90034 (310)287-1556 John DiNardo