From jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU Thu Oct 14 11:59:35 EDT 1993 Article: 32281 of alt.conspiracy Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: murdoch!hopper!jad From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 14, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.conspiracy, alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: Part 14, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: U.Va. Internet Public Access Project Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 00:27:26 GMT Lines: 188 ____ ____ ____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____ ---- ---- ---- T H E P E O P L E'S S P E L L B R E A K E R ____ ____ ____ ---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ---- ---- ---- DATE OF PRINTING PRICE: __ CENTS THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PEOPLE OF [your territory; example:] ALASKA * * * * * MORNING EDITION * * * * * EDITOR: John DiNardo PUBLISHER: [your name (optional)] ________________________________________ From the free airwaves of The People's Pacifica Radio Network station: WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 ________________________________________ Part 14, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GARY NULL: That's essential. I mean, please, audience -- listen to this! This is VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION! We are now with ANOTHER BULLET! This is NOT the bullet, the mysterious bullet that Doctor Wecht just said appeared to have gone through two bodies, from the back, shattered through seven different parts of the bodies, including bones, and then ended up with less than 1.5 percent loss of its fragmented material, which is physiologically impossible. We're talking about ANOTHER BULLET! DAVID LIFTON: Yeah. Anyway, this bullet was on the table, and he held it in his hands. Apparently, Seibert and O'Neill, the two FBI agents, go to the White House the next week to investigate, I believe, the whereabouts of this bullet, because they write a report which has a full paragraph about the bullet's whereabouts. And it is supposed to go from the stretcher in [Parkland Hospital] in Dallas to the FBI lab directly, and not go via the Bethesda morgue. So, one is left with the following kinds of possibilities. This, I label, very clearly on this program, as theorizing: 1. that there is another bullet recovered from the body. Possible. 2. that somebody was thinking of planting another such bullet at Bethesda, but realized that they couldn't get away with it at two locations. You know, a bullet in Dallas and a bullet at Bethesda. But whatever it was -- Osborn held the bullet in his hands! That's critical. And furthermore, in my filmed interview with James Jenkins (and I think it's even in my telephone interview), I noticed it while I was going over some transcripts the other night. You know, this stuff is many years old. But Jenkins talks about this bullet being in the room, and that somebody came in with a plastic bag and there was a bullet in it. I also have corroboration for [the presence of] this bullet from Captain Stover who was the head of the medical school. And it's in my Chapter 29 where I sum up the evidence for this bullet. You know, this is a critical piece of evidence. But on the other hand, I don't have a comprehensive theory, except that it's another bullet. It's either a truncated attempt to plant a bullet, which then they don't do -- it's a card they don't play -- or it's a bullet that is recovered and suppressed. I don't know which it is. But I believe Osborn. He held it in his hand. He's a Navy admiral. He is chief-of-surgery. In fact, my closing line was: "I never called back Admiral Osborn to find out what explanation Humes" (because he said he called Commander Humes, the autopsy doctor) "provided when he called. The conflict is irreconcilable. Still, I have wondered about the conversation that must have passed between these two men, who have been friends for twenty- five years, when the only alternatives are either that one of them imagined that he held a bullet or the other has chosen to remain silent about the incident during the course of all previous Government investigations." And that's where we stand on that one. Now what's the third thing you wish me to discuss? GARY NULL: Well, I would add something to that. It's one thing to have an admiral, who is chief-of-surgery, suggest that he has a mental illusion about holding up a bullet, but it's virtually impossible to have someone else participate in that illusion by saying that he also saw the bullet that this person held up. DAVID LIFTON: Of course. Obviously, this was never gotten to the bottom of. GARY NULL: Clearly, if you had a bullet in the room and two people witnessed it, and the chief-of-surgery held it up, then you had a bullet in the room! DAVID LIFTON: Absolutely. There's no question in my mind that there was a bullet there. I just don't if the bullet had been extracted or .... GARY NULL: If the FBI were in the room -- if the FBI were orchestrating the autopsy, even though they were not physicians and they had no [medical] knowledge, you also have the fact that when that .... there was the case of what happened to the brain of the President. DAVID LIFTON: Well, which would you like me to discuss now. GARY NULL: Well, I'd like to go to something that is very important, and that is: Behind the scenes of the House Select Committee on Assassinations -- and also the allegations of Doctor John Ebersole. DAVID LIFTON: Yeah. Well that's a lot of stuff there. Behind the scenes: Basically, I think that section of my book discusses the fact that I discussed my hypothesis with five attorneys on the House Select Committee. Now I didn't have a publisher then. And I COULDN'T get to first base with these guys. I mean, there was a TOTAL mental BLOCK! I remember Andy Purdy, the attorney who was in charge of the medical area .... I remember that he said to some other attorney at a party (This was reported to me.) that he had spoken to David Lifton about this whole business of the President's body being altered. He says: "Now THAT's what I call a conspiracy." He thought it was very FUNNY! I mean, these guys ... I don't know. It's outrageous ... these guys don't understand what a conspiracy looks like. Purdy is the one who didn't know what a body bag was. So when Paul O'Connor said, "I opened the President's body bag," he published that statement about the body bag in the report. That's how I found it, by the way. And I said: "Andy, do you know what a body bag is?" He said: "No. What's a body bag?" I said: "Where were you during the Vietnam War?!" These guys were in school or something. I mean, they're academics, and they DON'T understand. How can you investigate a murder without knowing what a body bag is? See, the key to this whole plot is the interception of the body, as far as I'm concerned. And if you have attorneys investigating who don't know what a body bag is, you're not going to get very far. Right? (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If I can arm you with the vital truth that will awaken you to the realization that this power elite was able to terrorize the People of the United States by scattering their president's brains onto the streets of one of our cities, when they could have less flagrantly induced a fatal disease in him .... If I can give you the mass-media-concealed information that you need to understand that they had to blow out the brains of President Kennedy in full view of the American People in order to slaughter fifty-eight thousand young Americans of my generation and to slaughter two million Vietnamese people, and to instill fear and despair in the hearts of all Americans .... If I can arm you with these realizations, then my efforts will have been partially successful. As I see it, the best way that you and I can reap a harvest from the seeds of realization that are being planted here is for each of us to join together to combine our individual strengths into one huge arm powerful enough to wield the awesome sword of the law, forged in Constitutionality, against the totalitarian forces who are subverting our Government and gradually herding us all into subjugation. And so I urge you to contact either one of two legal institutes that I know of having the courage, the resolve and the respect for justice necessary to serve as that sword of legality: William Davis Ramsey Clark The Christic Institute International Action Center 8773 Venice Blvd. 39 West 14th St., suite 206 Los Angeles, CA 90034 New York, NY 10011 1(310)287-1556 1(212)633-6646 John DiNardo ~~~ ~~~