From jad@ckuxb.att.com Ukn Jan 27 10:27:16 1993 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA20727; Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:27:13 -0500 Message-Id: <9301271527.AA20727@css.itd.umich.edu> To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:13:44 EST From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Status: RO X-Status: Article 19745 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Subject: Part 31, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1993Jan26.225929.7810@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 150 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JIM MARRS: Probably, a healthy percentage of the population of this country derives their direct income, in one way or another, from this military-industrial state, either working directly for the Government, or through military pensions, or through active military [duty], or through the defense contractors or, even from small companies that produce shoelaces for combat boots, pins for hand grenades, etcetera. I'm not sure we're even yet in a position to really, truthfully evaluate the impact of the military-industrial complex on this country. But now, was there any tie-in to the assassination by the Military? Absolutely! James Powell, a military intelligence agent, made the mistake of going into the Texas School Book Depository before it was sealed off by police. And once it was, he had to show his credentials before he could get out. So he became part of the permanent record. And you may well ask: What was an Army intelligence agent doing in the School Book Depository at the time of the Kennedy Assassination? You might also ask why he was outside taking photographs of the Texas School Book Depository Building at the time of the assassination when most people were not even aware of what had gone on, or who was involved, or even of the fact that the School Book Depository would be identified as the place where the sniper had fired from. ..... [brief discontinuity due to tape ending] ..... [photos] taken six and eight minutes after the assassination took place. And they show that there's still somebody up there moving boxes on the sixth floor. The other key thing that I would point to was found in the Dallas Police files. We have Lieutenant Rebell of the Dallas Police. He went back to police headquarters from the Book Depository and typed up a list of Book Depository employees. And this was done within, probably, thirty minutes after the assassination -- even before they had Oswald arrested. And HEADING the list of School Book Depository employees was Harvey Lee Oswald. And it gave his address as 605 Elsbeth. Okay? Now, the problem is, of course, as we know, it was Lee Harvey Oswald. And his address that he gave in his application for employment to the Book Depository was the West Fifth address of the Paine house out in Irving, where his wife was staying. Okay? Nowhere on his records at the Book Depository was this Elsbeth address. In fact, Oswald HAD lived at 60`2' Elsbeth in the late fall of `62 and early `63, but he did not put that down on any of his material at the Book Depository. So where did the Dallas Police Intelligence Chief Rebell get this "Harvey Lee Oswald" and where did he get "60`5' Elsbeth"? Well, he told the Warren Commission that he rode back from Dealey Plaza to the police station with a military intelligence agent. Recently, he told a news reporter down here in Texas that not only was this a military intelligence agent, he was an O.N.I. agent, Office of Naval Intelligence. And, of course, it's been well- accepted that if Oswald played some role in intelligence, he probably started off in the Office of Naval Intelligence, since he was a Marine, and the Marines are under the Navy Department. Okay? Now, in 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations contacted a Colonel Jones of Fourth Army Intelligence. And he said that on the day of the assassination he got word from some of his people in Dallas that they had arrested a fellow and that his name was Alex J. Heidel. He told Congress that he checked with Fourth Army Military Intelligence files and found that Alex J. Heidel cross- referenced to Lee Harvey Oswald, and it gave his address as "60`5' Elsbeth. So the SAME mistaken address that turned up on Lieutenant Rebell's Dallas Police Intelligence sheet of School Book Depository employees turns up in Fourth Army Intelligence files. And Rebell says he rode back to Dallas Police Headquarters with an O.N.I agent. Now -- what does that tell us? That tells us that it was the MILITARY in Dallas, on November the 22nd, that was tipping off the Dallas Police that the suspect they were after was Lee Harvey Oswald. GARY NULL: That's DYNAMITE material! By God, if that ..... I don't think that people know HOW important this information is! This clearly focuses -- telescopes in on specific areas and people that we should be paying attention to. JIM MARRS: Right. And it goes far beyond simply renegades within the CIA, or a dissident FBI agent over here, or some Mob hit-men. Now, I don't think there's any question. It is obvious. There's evidence that there are Mafia people mixed up in the assassination. I think that if you want to go get hired killers, that's the place where you would start. I don't think there's any question about that. I don't think there's any question that there is a CIA involvement in all of this. But the thing is -- somewhere it had to come together. Somewhere there had to be a connecting point. And I believe that the Military, and particularly the groups and the individuals in and around "Operation Mongoose" probably were this connecting point. GARY NULL: Alright. Let's take a look at a few other people here. Give us your opinions of what, if any, role the following people had, or of what knowledge they may have had concerning the assassination: The fired Bay of Pigs architect, General Charles Cabell. JIM MARRS: Alright. I don't think it was just a coincidence that the day of the assassination, Cabell, who had been fired by Kennedy as the Deputy Director of the CIA, had simply moved back into the Pentagon, resumed his duties there and his rank there, and, in fact, was kind of in hot water because he had publicly branded his commander-in- chief, the President of the United States John F. Kennedy, a traitor. Okay? If he truly believed that -- and he had to believe that, or he wouldn't have said that publicly about his superior -- then you can see that he would have no trouble in justifying the death sentence for "a traitor". And I don't think it was a coincidence that his brother, Earl Cabell was Mayor of Dallas that day. As such, he was one of the prominent and important politicians who helped guide things and make decisions that were taken in respect to Kennedy's visit there. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please help to disseminate it by posting it to computer bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo The episodes of this and other series can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from the site: red.css.itd.umich.edu Log in with name "anonymous" or "ftp" and supply your e-mail address as the password. The files are kept in the directory /poli/Essays/Conspiracy Instructions for ftp retrieval are dependent upon what sort of system the user is on. On a UNIX machine, at the command prompt, type the following: ftp red.css.itd.umich.edu This may be different on IBMs and Vax systems. 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