From uucp Wed Oct 27 16:07 EDT 1993 >From jd Wed Oct 27 15:59:04 EDT 1993 remote from hogpa.att.com Received: from hogpa.att.com by hopper.acs.virginia.edu.ACS.Virginia.EDU; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 16:07 EDT Received: from hogpd.ho.att.com by hogpa.ho.att.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08153; Wed, 27 Oct 93 15:58:50 EDT Received: by hogpd.ho.att.com (4.1/6.0c-FWP); id AA06411; Wed, 27 Oct 93 15:59:04 EDT Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 15:59:04 EDT From: jd@hogpa.att.com Message-Id: <9310271959.AA06411@hogpd.ho.att.com> To: att!hopper.acs.virginia.edu!jad Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4632 Status: OR Article 17923 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Path: cbnewsl!att-out!walter!uunet!wupost!mont!pencil.cs.missouri.edu!rich From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part IV, Within America's Soul, Hitler is Victorious Message-ID: <1992Dec7.234129.18618@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: Within America's soul, Hitler is victorious. Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1992 23:41:29 GMT Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 77 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) RAMSEY CLARK: When President Bush talks about pinpoint bombing, let me tell you, I didn't see any "collateral military damage." This is an attack on the people of Iraq -- the economy of Iraq. You tell me what municipal water in Mosul has to do with liberating Kuwait -- or bombing the bridges in Baghdad, or trying to ..... We're bombing the civilian population. The hospitals have been hit. The Teaching Hospital in Basra doesn't have a window in it. It was out of operation for a week, when they needed it most. They've got a lot of injured people there. I walked down there at night and here a bomb had hit a family club, and thank God it was closed because it would have killed scores and scores of people if it had been open. The bombing is a violation of international law, which all of us should always remember, protects civilians. You don't kill civilians! The United States of America doesn't go around killing civilians! And there're not hitting military targets. If they are, why can't you find some shreds of soldiers' clothing. All you find is the people's clothing scattered around, and their possessions scattered around in their residential areas. That's what's happening! Food, gasoline: VERY hard to get. The gas stations, all up and down the roads, are hit. Road repair camps are hit. They don't want you to repair the road from Amman to Baghdad. The idea that military traffic is on that road .... If SCUDS are out there .... You'd take a SCUD down a main highway? Why don't you see anything, if they hit them? These are violations of the Hague Conventions. They're violations of the Geneva Conventions. They're violations of the Nuremburg Principles. They're war crimes. And the idea that they are encompassed within the U.N. Resolutions including 678, the Security Council resolution, is off-the-wall. How can destroying civilian life in northern Iraq, or central Iraq, or any place in Iraq, except mass troop formations (and there are plenty of them out there) have anything to do with the liberation of ... [Kuwait]? There's nothing in there that says we have a right to go in -- and of course we couldn't get a right from anybody because, in natural law and in international law, there's no right, ever, to destroy civilian life or non-combatant life, which would include the government offices. Who do you think works in the telephone company? A bunch of soldiers? People work in there! And all those buildings that are hit in Baghdad. People work in there -- civilians, overwhelmingly. And we're just "bombing them back into the stone age", as people liked to say about Vietnam. ..... What kind of military pride could you have in beating up on a poor third-world country like that? Their per capita income is about $2,400. Ours is $19,000. We are raining death and destruction, with our technology, on the life in Iraq. And there ought to be a cessation of the bombing now. And anyone who dares to say that these are "surgical strikes" ought to go into those hospitals and see what kind of surgery they're having to do because of them -- on little babies, women and children. If the United States of America cares about its character, it had better stop that bombing. You can never have the respect or the good will of the people of the planet, including hundreds of millions of Arabs, a billion Moslems, or just poor people anywhere, if you use your technology to destroy their lives. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please help to deliver this untold story to the deceived people of our country by posting the articles of this ongoing series to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. John DiNardo