From jad@ckuxb.att.com Ukn Feb 3 08:16:54 1993 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA08899; Wed, 3 Feb 93 08:16:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9302031316.AA08899@css.itd.umich.edu> To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Date: Wed, 3 Feb 93 08:13:15 EST From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Status: RO X-Status: Article 20003 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Subject: Part 32, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1993Feb2.131716.7687@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, FREE Public Access UNIX! Lines: 152 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: Alright. A key piece of evidence. A CRUCIAL piece of evidence that the media has overlooked. I'd like for you to fill in a blank here. Absolutely essential: We know that the route of President Kennedy's caravan was rerouted. The motorcade was rerouted. Who did that? JIM MARRS [author of CROSSFIRE: THE PLOT THAT KILLED KENNEDY]: Well, it's a murky question, and you get into all kinds of problems there. First off, the zig-zag up Houston and down Elm Street .... I'm going to have to admit that Chief Terry[sp], the Dallas Police Chief, told the Warren Commission -- they asked him about that route and he told them that that was the normal flow of traffic. And that is true. And that's why we're going to have a hard time with this thing about the route because it was the normal flow of traffic, and you can always argue that: Well, they followed the normal flow of traffic. The problem, of course, is that this was not a normal situation. This was a President of the United States who was visiting. They had Main Street blocked off already for the motorcade through downtown. And if I had been in charge of security .... and, in fact, several of the Dallas police officers brought this point up to the Warren Commission. They said that they didn't understand why the motorcade didn't simply go straight down Main Street, which was already blocked off, and then turn and go right up onto Stimmons Expressway, which would have left no need to make a hundred and twenty degree turn. GARY NULL: You wouldn't have slowed down because Main Street is a straight street, and as a straight street, the motorcade would not have had to slow down. Now, having to turn on procession's path and then back onto Elm Street, you have two turns which necessitate going very slow. JIM MARRS: Exactly. And one of them -- the turn from Houston onto Elm is about a one hundred and twenty degree turn, which is a VIOLATION of Secret Service regulations. Now, the only other thing that I'd point out is that on November the 19th, when the Secret Service chiefs came to Dallas and they rode the motorcade route, if you read their description very closely in the Warren Commission [Report], you find that they came up Houston Street to about Main, and they said: Here is where the motorcade goes on to the Trade Mart. And they turned east on Main, and they never did drive that hundred and twenty degree turn onto Elm Street. So there was apparently some negligence there on really determining the exact path of the motorcade and realizing that they had a security problem there. Now, who engineered that negligence is still kind of up-in-the-air. But it seems clear to me that since the Secret Service and other Federal officials ..... In fact, there was a man from the Agriculture Department, believe it or not, who came down and apparently was an integral, important part of the planning of this motorcade route. And, of course, you have to go back and understand that the old Agriculture Department head, Orville Freeman, had been a very close political friend of Lyndon Johnson. And so, there seems to have been some mechanization that took place in this planning, but we have not been able to nail that down. And again, we're back to the point where someone will say: "Well, that was the natural flow of traffic. So, I think that's going to remain a murky area in this investigation. GARY NULL: Alright. We do have .... [interruption due to tape ending] ..... the mayor, Earl Cabell. And Earl Cabell had (we don't know that it's the case) .... He had the power to reroute the motorcade. That is something that ..... JIM MARRS: He definitely called Police Chief Terry away from his duties at the time that they transferred Oswald, and he was shot by Ruby. And Terry said: "I wasn't there because I got a call from Mayor Cabell. GARY NULL: I wasn't aware of that. JIM MARRS: Well, there's another possibly important point because if the Police Chief himself had been there, he might have said something or done something that would have beefed up the security around Oswald and prevented Ruby from getting to him. GARY NULL: And, of course, the American Public should be aware that Kennedy had fired Allen Dulles as head of the CIA, and had vowed to "smash the CIA into a thousand pieces and cast it to the winds." And, of course, Dulles would be on the Warren Commission. Now, to appoint a man who had been fired seems rather absurd as far as objectivity is concerned. But, again, nothing about this has been objective or makes sense. Now, lastly, I want to go to some of the right-wing extremist organizations, and also to what some have suspected were some of the very powerful Texas industrialists who also were in the munitions business -- the armaments business. And later, as we would find out, we would be spending nearly ONE BILLION DOLLARS A DAY fighting in Viet Nam. JIM MARRS: Yeah. And let's not forget the oilmen. The oilmen were not providing munitions, but they were providing the life blood of the military machine, which is oil. And so, they very much wanted Viet Nam -- to keep the price of oil up. [JD: The most famous oilman in the World was a CIA agent in Miami who was involved with the anti-Castro Cubans who have been linked to the murder of President Kennedy. That famous oilman had a great deal to gain by the murder of the President because his Zapata Oil Company stood to make a fortune off of the slaughter in Viet Nam of over fifty-eight thousand American boys. That famous oilman is George Herbert Walker Bush, of course. Why don't we look at the financial records and find out how much money George Herbert Walker Bush actually made in that ten-year, blood-for-profits adventure??] (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please help to disseminate it by posting it to computer bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo The episodes of this and other series can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from the site: red.css.itd.umich.edu Log in with name "anonymous" or "ftp" and supply your e-mail address as the password. 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