Article 20864 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo) Subject: Part 37, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Message-ID: <1993Feb26.233930.1942@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Keywords: researchers'revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 23:39:30 GMT Lines: 142 The following transcript is of a tape-recorded broadcast by NO-commercials, NO-corporate-influences, listener-funded, beacon-of-truth Pacifica Radio Network station of the People: WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: So, how do you start to link all these disparate people together? What roles did they actually play? What roles do you surmise they played? L. FLETCHER PROUTY: Well, take one of the most crucial roles. Certainly, everybody wants to know who killed the President. How was he killed? What was the technique that was used. And really, the answer has been before us in the Press for years, and I guess most people didn't notice it or didn't see it in the proper context. President Lyndon Baines Johnson himself, when ex-President, just before he died, had an interview with an old friend of his -- a writer for the ATLANTIC MONTHLY Magazine. And, although I don't have it laying here in front of me at the moment, I'll tell you three things that Lyndon Johnson said during that interview that, coming from the President, the man who was most involved -- at least next to Kennedy -- in that whole affair. Johnson said these things. He said, first of all: "I never believed that Oswald did that by himself. Furthermore," he said, "I knew that there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy." I mean, he knew as he went along. I'm not sure that he meant that he knew ahead of time. But, in either case, those are his words. He said: "I have always felt that there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy." But third -- and here he really said what answers your question. He said: "WE", meaning the United States Government -- "We maintain a Murder Incorported," and he added the words, "in the Caribbean" because that was pertinent to the questions that were going on. But this "Murder Incorporated" is Worldwide. And now the United States Government maintains a "Murder Incorporated" capability, as we see, from time to time, when assassinations or other tragic terrorist movements [covert operations] take place. The people who do that are professionals. And they work for certain elements of the United States Government. Now, President Johnson said that, and that was printed in the July 1973 issue of the ATLANTIC MONTHLY Magazine. Since that has been put into the Press, then we can explore it a little more. Those professionals whom the [Central Intelligence] Agency calls "mechanics" are brought into Dallas. A small team. They do the job. They kill the President. They leave. They're gone. That's the murder! The BIG crime after that is the cover story that we see every day. For instance, this recent release by the American Medical Association is ABSOLUTE COVER STORY! Who IS IT that's forcing that ENORMOUS organization, that powerful organization, the American Medical Association, just last week or the week before, to release more cover story articles about the killing of the President that are NOT true? Why are they being made to do this? Where is the "power" that makes them do that? Therein is the explanation of the assassination of the President! GARY NULL: Alright. Let's go through this. Who had the power to kill the President and get away with it. Organized Crime could not have done it and gotten away with it. Anti-Castroites could not have done it and gotten away with it. And radically right-wing, conservative politicians could not have done it and gotten away with it. So who actually did it, and then who do you think ..... Separate the cast of characters whom you feel did it, and then the cast of characters who participated in the cover-up because whoever did it had to have enough power to get the FBI to participate [in the cover-up] because we know ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY -- it is a matter of LAW and it is a matter of sworn testimony that the FBI participated systematically in covering up, destroying, hiding information that was absolutely essential to the investigation. They participated in a crime at ALL levels, including the very highest level with J. Edgar Hoover. Now, you do not get J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI to consistently commit crimes, to break the laws which they're supposed to be there to defend unless you're very powerful. WHO, then, is more powerful than the FBI? And who is more intimidating than J. Edgar Hoover who could get that done? L. FLETCHER PROUTY: This is one of the questions that Oliver Stone ran into as he was developing the script and the concept of this movie, because there aren't many of us in this country, in this World who accept the fact that there are power centers. Winson Churchill called this power center, during World War II, when he was talking with intimate friends (This is written. This is clearly available to researchers) .... He called it a "high cabal". Winston Churchill is talking about a higher cabal than Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt and Josef Stalin. He is talking about a power center, a "power elite" that is ABOVE governments. Buckminster Fuller, a man who had enormous experience with governments .... he spent more time as a consultant to the Kremlin than any other non-Russian. He spent hours and hours and days as a consultant to Congress in our country. Buckminster Fuller was a man of great experience. He wrote a book that we should ALL know called "CRITICAL PATH". In that book, he speaks over and over and over again about the "power elite". I've written a book about [titled] "THE SECRET TEAM". [some words lost when Prouty's phone line is cut off for a few seconds] .... because I myself have worked with people, in their own homes, like [Eisenhower's Secretary of State] John Foster Dulles and [Director of Central Intelligence] Allen Dulles. I have seen John Foster Dulles pick up a special telephone. He didn't dial. He didn't say anything except: "I want" so-and-so. And you could tell by the name that it was a Soviet name -- a man in Russia. They talked for a little while. He said "Thank you," hung up the phone and we went right ahead with business. He had settled something. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please help to disseminate it by posting it to computer bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo The episodes of this and other series can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from the site: red.css.itd.umich.edu Log in with name "anonymous" or "ftp" and supply your e-mail address as the password. The files are kept in the directory /pub/Politics/Essays/Conspiracy Instructions for ftp retrieval are dependent upon what sort of system the user is on. 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