From jad@ckuxb.att.com Tue Dec 15 15:59:38 1992 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA10891; Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:59:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9212152059.AA10891@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:53 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: O X-Status: Article 17665 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Path: cbnewsl!cbnewsk!att!linac!uwm.edu!rpi!gatech!ukma!mont!pencil.cs.missouri.edu!rich From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part II, NAZI DOCTORS Directed by Government, Medicine and Academia Message-ID: <1992Nov30.223839.11046@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: Nazi doctors directed by Government, Medicine and Academia Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1992 22:38:39 GMT Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 145 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: By the way, let's make one thing very, very clear. And I hope that this message reaches the ears of the executive and on-line producers of 20/20 and SIXTY MINUTES. For these shows which make tens of millions of dollars, and Emmy Awards, and which catapult their interviewers to stardom: How many of those research pieces that they do did they go out and get all the material themselves; versus, how many of them, as has happened so frequently in the past where producers for these shows would call me and have lunch with me and say: "We'd like to look at this file and that file and that file and this file and this box and that box" .... and you give them so much of your material, and they take YEARS of work of other reporters and then go and interview your sources that you've uncovered, that you've dug up, and then make it THEIR piece, without attribution. I call that "midnight journalism." And yet, even THEY haven't done enough on the subject. A great number of these experiments were meaningless, quite simply, like most of what our Federal Government funds -- certainly, in the Military -- a colossal, intellectually dumbfounded way of doing anything. I'm ashamed at the lack of intellectual acumen of the people in bureaucracies who make policy decisions in our experimental community. You have NO idea of the stupidity that goes on every day. I can't imagine where they get these scientists. I can't imagine where these policy-makers come from. A Star Wars Program? What lunacy! Intellectually, it is not a concept that can be fathomed to work. And yet, it was sponsored. Tens of billions of dollars were spent on it. The C-5A [aircraft] Scandal, with five or six more billion [dollars squandered]. These are legion. Hundreds of projects -- hundreds of billions of dollars wasted! And not a single wimper from the American Community at large. And in science, even more experiments and wasted money. Sixty or seventy times, people would do the same experiment because they knew that they could get money for it. Doing new things in nutrititon, health, science is hard to get funding on. Our very peer review system is flawed. We would not be willing to pardon over-zealous researchers for unethical conduct, but we could, at least, understand their motives if the results of their work truly contribute to improving the quality of life and health of all people, with minimum negative results. But this has not been the case. The results of MOST of the studies in science, in the projects I'm mentioning, were published in scientific journals and couched in technical jargon. But they led to nothing beneficial. A trend that continues today is the prevalence of scientific studies that serve no definable purpose, except to keep research grants alive, promote connections with Government agencies that allot the funds, and secure the tenure of the individuals supervising the studies. Scientific literature is replete with useless studies. The vast majority is useless or repetitive. I recently did a study conducting a literature search of every abstract on anti-oxidants. I found sixty percent to be absolutely worthless and duplicitous. But they were still published. And someone funded them. And peer-reviewers had to approve them. Even the Government's own Office of Technology Assessment reveals that ninety percent of the studies supported by the Government are seriously flawed. Ninety percent! Because science is guided, not by one, but by all three of this country's most powerful entitites: the Government, Defense and Medicine, parts of these articles, that we now see in the literature, overlap. For instance, the radiation experiments may be justified as medical therapy, when, in fact, these experiments are funded by Government agencies and the Military to further warfare technology. The same holds true with studies in chemotherapy, since these substances were originally derived from chemical weapons during World War Two. Let me share something very specific with you. This comes from documents that were obtained from the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee. Now, I will only share with you thirty-one of what I would call "human guinea pig experiments," to give you an idea of what the Public is NOT aware of. These involved over seven hundred people over thirty years. And this is a frequent and systematic use of human beings as guinea pigs. For example, from 1945 to 1947, as part of the Manhattan Project -- a project that you never have read about, that you have never seen depicted in any film, including the one with Paul Newman on the Manhattan Project or any other film -- eighteen patients, believed to have limited life spans, were injected with plutonium. That's correct. They were dispensable, so our Government injected them, secretly, with plutonium. Needless to say, they all died. That report was never made public. It was kept secret. >From 1961 to 1965, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, twenty elderly subjects were injected or fed radium or thorium, without consent. During 1946 and 1947, at the University of Rochester, six patients with GOOD kidney functions were injected with uranium salts to determine the concentration that would produce kidney disease. Again: six people, who had completely perfect kidneys, had their kidneys destroyed, just to see how much it would take to do it -- all in the name of science. >From 1953 to 1957, at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, approximately twelve brain tumor patients were injected with uranium to determine the dose at which kidney damage began to occur. >From 1963 to 1971, sixty-seven inmates at Oregon State Prison and sixty-four inmates at Washington State Prison received X-rays to their testicles to determine the effects of radiation on fertility and testicular function. >From 1963 to 1965, at the Atomic Energy Commission's National Reactor Testing Station in Idaho, radioactive iodine was PURPOSELY released on seven separate occasions. In one, seven human subjects purposely drank [were purposely given] milk from cows that had grazed on iodine-contaminated land. At the University of Chicago and at Argonne National Laboratory in Argonne, Illinois, one hundred-and-two human subjects were fed REAL radioactive fallout from the Nevada test site -- radioactive simulated fallout particles or solutions of radioactive cesium and strontium -- to see what it would do to them. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this information is vital to the defense and the preservation of our free society, please assist in its dissemination by posting it to other bulletin boards and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. John DiNardo If we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience", if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less. .... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold back from this work. .... Like every one of our ancestors before us, we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness. M. Scott Peck THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED