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From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part V,  NAZI DOCTORS Directed by Government, Medicine and Academia
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        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
GARY NULL:
At Oregon State Prison, sixty-four volunteers were subjected to
irradiation of their testicles. Radiation doses ranged from six
hundred roentgens in single exposures ..... By the way, the present
recognized safe limit for exposure to reproductive organs is five
roentgens per year. And they were given six hundred. And then they
were given it again. That's twelve hundred roentgens. The purpose of
this experiment was:

 (quote)
   "to obtain data on the effects of ionizing radiation on human 
    fertility and on the function of testicular cells."
 (unquote)

It included examination of testicular tissues, sperm counts, and
evaluation of urinary or blood steroids and hormones. According to
the Energy Research and Development Administration, the successor
agency to the Atomic Energy Commission:

 (quote)
   "Records suggest that the prime incentive to participate was the
    feeling that they were making important contributions to the
    state of medical knowledge."
 (unquote)

Prisoners were from 25 to 52 years-old. All the prisoners went
through the same experiments. They all were given vasectomies.
In a peculiar deference to religious sensibilities, there were no
Catholic subjects because the radiation would, no doubt, affect    
the man's fertility. That the scientists considered potential
participants' religious faith in performing vasectomies on all
subjects is a clear indication that they knew that substantial
damage would result from the administration of such massive doses
of radiation. Hence, little credence can be given to apologists 
who say that these experiments could only have been conducted in
an atmosphere of ignorance of the effects of radiation. In fact,
when these experiments were conducted, almost twenty years had
passed since the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, events which 
had shown that exposure to even low levels of radiation could
result in cancer.

I called Dr. John Goffman, M.D. Ph.D., Professor Emeritus of 
Medical Physics at the University of California at Berkeley.
He says:

 (quote)
   "We have very well documented studies on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    There is no question as to what's going on there. In fact, there
    is evidence that low levels of radiation -- under ten rads --
    have caused a major increase in cancer in those places."
 (unquote)

Most of the shocking things about these experiments -- from my 
perspective, at least -- is that there was no medical follow-up to
check the long-term effects of irradiation on the test subjects.
This failure to follow-up is prevalent in experiments of this
nature, and is often used to deny any long-term effects. According
to Dr. Goffman:

 (quote)
   "The issue is: How did the scientists look for effects? Had they
    followed them for twenty years when they say that they didn't
    see any effects?  No! What happens is that they look at them for
    a few months and say, `Nothing happened.'"
 (unquote)

Military personnel have long been used as human guinea pigs without
adequate follow-up. We see this today. In the VERY high incidence   
of illnesses -- of people coming back, who have been back now from
the Persian Gulf War for over a year -- exotic illnesses that
initially, and until recently, and until it was made an election
issue, no agency of Government wanted to focus on it: not the Center 
for Disease Control, the National Cancer Institute, the Center for
Allergy and Infection, the Department of Defense; no one wanted to
touch it.

Then again, just imagine how many military personnel over the 
years have been conditioned to become automated killers, but never
brought back to what they were before they were conditioned. Think
of the post-war trauma syndrome of HUNDREDS of thousands of people,
to this day, who cannot function in a healthy way. And their
dysfunction is directly related to the fact that they were never
helped after coming back from Vietnam. But because these people
"don't count", then they don't exist.

You have to understand something. It becomes ultimately immaterial
whether it's Democrat or Republican. And anyone who knows anything
about the larger issues of political debate understands that. Those
who don't will rally around their respective candidate and think
that that will make the issue.  It hasn't! It won't! Both parties
are the parties of Special Interests." But any interest that does 
not align itself with votes becomes invisible. And when people      
feel that anything they've gained can be threatened by making a
challenge, they make themselves invisible. So think of all the
people who have suffered because of Agent Orange and dioxin because
there was not a groundswell of support for them; only later. Today,
we see tens of thousands of Vietnam veterans suffering from a wide
range of physical disorders. The only common denominator was their
exposure to Agent Orange. They settled a class-action lawsuit, of
course, but the Government has NEVER acknowledged any complicity in
the Agent Orange fiasco or the Los Alamos fiasco.

The Government's position has always been to deny any responsibility
for its actions; to cover up -- always -- and to go so far as to
initiate harrassment and surveillance, by the FBI and the CIA, of
any individual or any group that chooses to bring claims against the
Government. If you, as an individual, or if you belong to a group,
and if you take a political position opposite that of Those in Power
-- watch how fast the FBI opens a file on you.  Before you can
hang-up the phone, they're on you!   That's the way it works.        
That will not change. 
                       (to be continued)
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           John DiNardo

If we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience",
if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the
more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less.
.... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold
back from this work. .... Like every one of our ancestors before
us, we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness.

                                        M. Scott Peck
                                   THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED