From jad@ckuxb.att.com Tue Dec 15 16:11:58 1992 Received: from att-out.att.com by css.itd.umich.edu (5.67/2.2) id AA11163; Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:11:55 -0500 Message-Id: <9212152111.AA11163@css.itd.umich.edu> From: jad@ckuxb.att.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:09 EST To: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu Status: O X-Status: Article 18294 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa,misc.activism.progressive Path: cbnewsl!cbnewsk!att!linac!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!mont!pencil.cs.missouri.edu!rich From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo) Subject: Part VII, NAZI DOCTORS Directed by Government, Medicine and Academia Message-ID: <1992Dec15.191629.24850@mont.cs.missouri.edu> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Keywords: Nazi doctors directed by Government, Medicine and Academia Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:16:29 GMT Approved: map@pencil.cs.missouri.edu Lines: 149 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: Critics of the military's increased presence on campus believe that science will naturally gravitate to where the money is, and that the role of the university as an objective gatherer of knowledge is threatened when university administrators are forced to woo money from special businesses, corporations and the Pentagon. In an environment such as this, it is unlikely that scientific ethics will be any more evolved than they were years ago. In fact, the relative decrease in funding from sources other than the Pentagon STRONGLY suggests that today's scientists may be forced to make more difficult ethical decisions. Some of the experiments detailed in my discussion today were conducted solely to enable scientists to (quote) "calibrate" (unquote) instruments that measure radioactive substances in the body. Over almost a decade, subjects either inhaled argon-41 or swallowed capsules of other radioactive materials so that scientists could set their instruments. One of the most startling things about these series of radiation experiments is the relative apathy in which we, as a country, accept them, even when they are exposed. In fact, there is very little in the news about the death or harm from radiation today. The nuclear industry is on the rebound. This seems unusual in a medium that is characterized by its aggressive investigation of the sex lives of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen, or those of other people. Who cares! All that headline and all that news over domestic squabbling and emotional issues -- the family effect of a private couple, irrespective of their public personna. They still have a right to settle the issue as they see fit, in court or in hearings. But where are the headlines about investigating multiple hundreds of thousands of diseased people by the things in our environment? Where Are Those Headlines Screaming ? They are silent. People know how many pairs of shoes Imelda Marcos had. People know about Jimmy Bakker's secret sex affairs. People know about Bill Clinton's alleged mistress. But what about $125 hammers purchased by the Pentagon? Or a $13,000 coffee machine for an airplane? Why don't we hear about radiation and its risks to human health? Is it just that it's not newsworthy enough? CONSERVATIVELY, Doctor John Goffman estimates that fifty thousand people develop cancer ANNUALLY as a result of their exposure to X-rays, in excess of what is needed for good diagnostic pictures. Why Isn't That Reported ? I think that fifty thousand people getting cancer every year from unnecessary X-rays is important -- certainly as important as whether or not Tammy Bakker is happy with her eyebrows 3 inches, 4 inches or 8 inches up on her forehead. Dr. John Goffman says: (quote) "There are very, very powerful Interests who do not want that information to get out. One is the radiology profession. Another is the nuclear medicine profession. These people make their livelihoods by conducting these types of experiments. And still other even more powerful Interests are the Government and the nuclear industry. To all of these groups, the amount of harm done by radiation is acceptable. The media can count on this. I've seen them descend on the radio commentator who was covering the story at the Chernobyl disaster. What happened was that he mentioned that there had been an explosion at the Three Mile Island [nuclear] plant. The next day, four officials from the Public Utility Commission descended on his station manager and claimed that he had falsely reported an explosion at Three Mile Island. Of course, it was documented. You just had to look at the Presidential Commmission Report which says that there were TWO explosions at Three Mile Island. But the four Public Utility Commission officials harrassed the station manager, anyway, thinking that they could con him into suppressing the information. If you think that you're dealing with objectivity and honesty, let me tell you that you are dealing outside of the real world when you say: `Gosh. This ought to be news.' Remember, there are big vested Interests on the part of the United States Government, the nuclear industry and the medical profession's radiology branches to keep this news from surfacing. So, don't be surprised when you go to a nuclear medicine specialist and he says: `Oh, this is all nonsense about low-level doses of radiation causing cancer. We've been using these doses for years. I've been taking X-rays for a long time and I've never seen them causing cancer.' These people are then put ON THE AIR, written about in the newspapers with articles that say: `Radiologist Finds That Radiation Effects Have Been Overblown.' But you never see the Press doing an analysis of the real evidence." (unquote) That was from Dr. John Goffman in an interview with me. Dr. Goffman says that he is so fed up with the manner in which the Press reports, or rather, fails to report on the devastating effects of radiation, which kill thousands of Americans each year, that he: (quote) "would not bother with the Media if I didn't feel it to be part of my human duty, as a physcian. There are people out there who will kill other people for a price. Murder is not restricted to the Mafia or Murder Incorporated. It's alive and well in the Medical Profession where they are killing people for a fee. (unquote) The Government and the Medical Profession have not confined their crimes against the American People to radiation exposure. More on tomorrow's program when I continue to explore other ways in which hidden agendas have caused Americans to be used as human guinea pigs. And to those who would suggest that it is an isolated case here and there: You continue to suggest it is, and I'll continue to share information that it is not. Ultimately, the Public can make up its own mind. It can be completely indifferent, as 95 percent are, or it can be somewhat concerned or very concerned. It's not that we're going to change them. We won't. What we can do is we can change OUR design to be part of their experiments. WE don't have to be unwitting victims if we choose not to. That is a perceptual change. I'm Gary Null. This has been a part of our continuing series on Hidden Agendas. 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