Article 15839 of alt.conspiracy: Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,alt.society.civil-liberty,alt.individualism,alt.censorship,talk.politics.misc,misc.headlines,soc.culture.usa Path: cbnewsl!jad From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Subject: Part VII, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Distribution: North America Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1992 16:16:26 GMT Message-ID: <1992Sep18.161626.13759@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> Followup-To: alt.conspiracy.jfk Keywords: researchers' revelations about the assassination of President Kennedy Lines: 132 I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) GARY NULL: What would have been the sequence of events to have allowed the brain to have been removed, since there is no evidence that it was removed in Dallas during the procedures that were performed on the body at that time? DAVID LIFTON: If I understand you correctly, you're asking me when was the body stolen. Is that what you're saying? GARY NULL: Yes. When was it stolen, and why would they have removed the brain, and where did the brain next appear? DAVID LIFTON: The only time that the body could have been taken out of the casket (and this is covered in the conclusion of my book), and the only time (I don't want to say that the casket is unguarded because there are always Secret Service agents around, and you cannot have this go forward without the connivance of some Secret Service agents), but the only time that the Kennedys aren't all over that casket is when they come back to Air Force One after the shooting. That is, after the President is pronounced dead at Parkland Hospital, a coffin is obtained -- a large viewing casket which everybody sees on national TV. They go out to Love Field with the President's body in the casket. They go aboard the aircraft and they learn that there is going to be a delay. "Why," they ask. "Why can't they take-off immediately for Washington?" "Well," they're told, "Lyndon Johnson is aboard this aircraft. He didn't go back to Washington on the other plane. He's on this plane." And he appears and says: "I spoke to Bobby Kennedy, and Bobby Kennedy said, `Delay the flight. I must be sworn in first in the state of Texas.'" This is all denied that night by Bobby Kennedy who tells his sister-in-law Jacqueline Kennedy that he said no such thing to Lyndon Johnson; that he (Johnson) called Bobby Kennedy, who was Attorney-General in Washington, and said: I'm being told that I should be sworn in. Do you have any objections; that it wasn't the other way around. Anyway, the result of this is that the flight is delayed by about a half-hour, and basically, the Kennedys (Mrs. Kennedy and the Kennedy aides) are told or requested to come to the front of the plane to witness the swearing in. It is in connection with this activity of "delay the flight and let's go to the front of the plane for the swearing in" .... that's the only time that the Kennedy party is not all over that casket. That's the time, I believe, (and it's a process of elimination, I will concede. I don't have a direct witness; otherwise I'd have solved the Kennedy assassination) .... but it's during that period that the body must have been taken out of the casket and put into some other casket and brought somewhere. I personally believe, at the time I wrote BEST EVIDENCE, that the body was flown to Washington, D.C., and that the alterations occurred on the East Coast after the plane landed at Andrews Air Force Base at six o'clock. And I cited, as evidence, helicopter activity on the starboard side; that is, the side facing away from public view -- and from radio transmissions indicating that they were going to go with the body to Walter Reed Army Hospital where (quote) "an autopsy was to be conducted under guard." And all that's on the radio. And I spelled it out in my book. Now, it's an unsolved mystery as to where this body was taken. But wherever it happened, that's where the brain would be removed and the wounds altered. It would be done very quickly. It was done VERY sloppily, I might add. And that's why, when the body arrived without a brain, it was immediately noted that there had been surgery to the head area. That's what the FBI wrote down. We're not dealing with some kind of perfect fraud here. We're dealing with a very imperfect crime with footprints all over the place; footprints which are ignored by the Warren Commission because they saw the crime -- or you might say they saw these events through very Establishment eyes. They never questioned any of this stuff that's brought up in my book. GARY NULL: When did the brain next appear? DAVID LIFTON: A brain is infused, in the autopsy room, by another technician: James Jenkins. Now let me explain this. It's kind of interesting. There were three technicians in the room: a guy named Ranicki, a fellow named Paul O'Connor and a fellow named Jenkins. Paul O'Connor gives me the account (and it's a thing that he will never forget. It just came out of his mouth when I interviewed him in 1979), that the cranium is empty. There's no brain, etc. And on the chart where the body organ weights are listed (a chart which is perfectly authentic. It has little pink spots on it. That's Kennedy's blood. It's in the National Archives today) there is no weight given for the brain, but there is a weight for many of the other body organs. That night, at some point -- and I don't know when -- a brain is brought into the room. That brain is given to James Jenkins, another technician. James infuses that brain with formaldehyde. And that brain becomes the evidence brain. It is weighed ten days later, or something. It's weight is recorded in a supplementary brain report. When I confronted O'Connor, on camera, with the fact that there is this brain, he said: "Well I don't know where they got it from. It certainly couldn't have been the President's!" In other words, it did not arrive in the body. Now, that's the way an autopsy is supposed to happen. The body is supposed to have the body parts inside it. You know, we're not dealing with United Parcel Service where you send something and say: "See attached." The brain is supposed to come in the cranium. Now, a brain is definitely brought into the room. I do not know how it got into the room. I can just tell you that James Jenkins infused a brain that night, whereas Paul O'Connor said that the cranium was empty. And by the way, O'Connor's account is corroborated by the X-ray technician who said that the hole was so large and the thing was so empty that he could have put his hands inside the hole. (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the necessity of citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo