TITLE: PORNOGRAPHY, SEXUAL MORALITY, HOMOSEXUALITY, CONCUBINAGE & THE BIBLE An explanation, in terms of the Scriptures, as to why I believe pornography consists of pictures/images/likenesses of whores/harlots/prostitutues/lewd women whether they are buck naked in xxx rated pictures/scenes/activities, or fully clothed in formal suits and gowns; and why I believe that the bottom line of decency and modesty for women involves at least the covering of their loins, i.e. the area of their external genitalia (vulva), their anus, and their rump "crack" (aka gluteous maximus); why I believe that pornography is not pictures/images/likenesses of Third World women and beach women who are wearing only a loin cloth (covering their external genitalia [vulva], anus and rump "crack"); and why I believe that Biblical concubines, common law wives and secondary wives are not mistresses/whores/harlots/ prostitutes. COPYRIGHT © JANUARY 14, 1998 All rights reserved. This file, in its entirety, may be posted on or copied off of computer networks like Internet or WWW by anyone so inclined. This is an ASCII text only copy of a Macintosh MicrosoftWord5 file made for non-Macintosh folks, so it is very plain and basic in its form (footnotes, indentation and page layout). The document is 6" wide and Palatino 12 plain font in the original. So when your text only version comes up with Palatino 14, just select all and change it to Palatino/Geneva font 12 or 10. By L. Tyler P.O. Box 620763, SanDiego, CA 92162-0763 oldservant@mindspring.com; oldserant@planetall.com; lovenchosen@hotmail.com http//:www.etext.info/Religious.texts/Polyamory or http//:www.etext.info/Religion/Polyamory http//:www.mindspring.com/users/oldservant TABLE OF CONTENTS (These page #'s are valid with Palatino Font 14 with 5.5" of text space (1.5 L & R margins). * Part One: SEXUAL MORALITY IN THE BIBLE WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN? Page 1 *Part Two: WHAT ACTS/DEEDS/THOUGHTS ARE WRONG BETWEEN A WOMAN AND A MAN? Page 5 *Part Three: PORNOGRAPHY, WHAT IS IT AND WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT IT? IS IT PORNOGRAPHY (WHORE PHOTOS)? IS IT WRONG (SIN)? WHAT IS PORNOGRPAHY IN THE LIGHT OF ALL OF THE ABOVE? Page 15 *IS IT PORNOGRAPHY? A PERSONAL INVENTORY P.22 * IS IT PORNOGRAPHY? A CHECK LIST. P. 23 * CONCUBINES IN THE BIBLE, ARE THEY MISTRESSES AND SINNERS? P.33 * RELATED AND SUPPORTING FILES AVAILABLE. P. 43 ------------------------------------------------------------ * Part One: SEXUAL MORALITY IN THE BIBLE WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN? Proverbs 5:18 Let your fountain* be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of your youth. 19 [She should be as] the loving hind and pleasant roe; Her breasts [should] satisfy you at all times; and [you should] be ravished~ always with her [erotic] lovemaking. [Footnote * genitalia See note 18.1; ~ [enraptrured/ intoxicated/orgasmic] 1 ¶ The song of songs, which [is] Solomon's. €Her--- 2 ¶ [He should] kiss me with the kisses of His mouth; €Them--- For Your lovemaking [is] better than wine. €Her--- 4 Draw me. €Them--- We will run after You. €Her--- The King has brought me into his [private] chambers. €Them--- We will be glad and rejoice in You. We will remember Your [affectionate] love more than wine. The upright love You. €Her--- 5 I [am] black*, but comely, O daughters of Jerusalem, like the tents of Kedar, like the curtains of Solomon. 6 Do not look on me, that I [am] black*, that the sun has looked on me. [footnotes * Black? How black is black? The bigots try to make this into tanned or darkly tanned. For white folks in any shade, a tan is brown, or dark brown. How black is this black? How black was she? The word rendered ³black² is the same word in Song 5:11 used to describe the color of a raven. My collegiate dictionary says that ravens have a ³lustrous black plumage². Not ³brown², not ³dark brown², but LUSTROUS BLACK as old Brer Crow and old Eddie Poe¹s raven that raps ³nevah mo bro². No way around it, this comely maiden was black, not blue black, but black as a raven. Since the world cultures, including China, SE Asia, India, Africa and Latin America value lighter skin over darker skin, this black beauty is almost as good a representative of ³the Church², or Israel, as is the passage in Ezekiel 16:1-10, where the Church and Israel are shown to be undesireable before God enters their lives, and even after God enters their lives, they are still looked down upon and perhaps even despised by the majority of the world..] €Her--- 12 ¶ While the King is in His circle, my spikenard gives its smell. 13 A bundle of myrrh [is] my Beloved to me. [He] shall lie all night between my breasts. . . . €Him--- 15 Behold, you [are] beautiful, my love; behold, you [are] beautiful; you [have] doves' eyes. 16 Behold, you [are] beautiful, my Beloved, yea, pleasant. Also our bed [is] green. €Her--- 1 ¶ I [am] the rose of Sharon, a lily of the valleys. € Him--- 2 As the lily among thorns, so [is] My love among the daughters. €Her--- 3 ¶ As the apple among the trees of the wood, so [is] my Beloved among the sons. I sat down under His shadow with great delight, and His fruit [was] sweet to my taste. . . 6 His left hand [is] under my head, and His right hand embraces me.... 10 My Beloved spoke, and said to me, "Rise up, My love, My beautiful one, and come away." I found [Him] whom my soul loves. I held Him and would not let Him go, until I had brought Him into my mother's house, and into the room of her who conceived me. €Him--- 1 ¶ Behold, you [are] beautiful, My love. Behold, you [are] beautiful; your eyes [are] like doves' from behind your veil; . . 3 Your lips [are] like a cord of scarlet, and your speech [is] becoming; your temples [are] like a piece of pomegranate behind your veil. . . . 5 Your two breasts [are] like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, feeding among the lilies [you hold against your bosom]. 6 Until when the day blows, and the shadows flee away, I will go to the mountain* of myrrh and to the hill~ of frankincense. 7 You [are] all fair, My love; no blemish [is] in you. [footnotes: *of one of her two breasts?; ~of her other breast?] €Him---......... 9 You have brought My heart to ecstasy, My sister, [My] spouse; you have brought My heart to ecstasy with one of your eyes, with one chain of your neck. 10 How fair is your love, My sister, [My] spouse! How [much] better [are] your lovemakings than wine, and the smell of your ointments than all spices! 11 Your lips, [My] spouse, drop like the honeycomb; honey and milk [are] under your tongue; and the smell of your garments [is] like the smell of Lebanon. 12 A locked garden* [is] My sister, [My] spouse; a rock heap locked up, a fountain~ sealed. [footnotes: *speaking of her pubic genital area; locked denoting chastity; ~speaking of her genitalia, see notes 16.1 and 18.1; sealed denoting chastity] €Her--- ¶16 Awake, O north [wind]; and come, south [wind]; blow on my garden*, so [that] the spices of it may flow out. Let my Beloved come into His garden* and eat His pleasant fruits. [footnotes: *speaking of her genitalia, see notes 16.1 and 18.1; her pubic area] *Him--- 1 ¶ I have come into My garden*, My sister, [My] spouse; I have gathered My myrrh with My spice; I have eaten My honeycomb with My honey; I have drunk My wine with My milk. Eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly. [Footnote: *speaking of her genitalia, see notes 16.1 and 18.1? €Her--- O Beloved! €Her--- 10 My Beloved [is] bright and ruddy, . . 11 His head [is like] the most fine gold, his locks [are] bushy [and] black* as a raven. [Footnote: *The same word used of her color above] €Her---...... 16 His mouth [is] most sweet; yes, He [is] altogether lovely. This [is] my Beloved. 2 My Beloved has gone down to His garden*, to the beds of spices, to feed in the gardens* and to gather lilies. 3 I [am] my Beloved's, and my Beloved [is] mine; He feeds among the lilies~. [Footnotes: *speaking of her , see notes 16.1 and 18.1; ~ Apparently affectionate attention to her breasts and belly. See 4:5 Your two breasts [are] like two fawns...feeding among the lilies. 7:2....your belly [is like] a heap of wheat set about with lilies] €Him--- 4 ¶ O my love, you [are] as beautiful as Tirzah, as lovely as Jerusalem,....... 1 ¶ How beautiful [are] your feet in sandals, O prince's daughter! The curves of your thighs [are] like jewels . . . . 2 Your navel [is like] a round goblet, which never lacks mixed wine; your belly [is like] a heap of wheat set about with lilies. 3 Your two breasts [are] like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. . . . . the hair of your head like purple cloth; the King [is] held captive in its tresses. 6 How beautiful and how pleasant you [are], O love, for delights! 7 Your stature is like a palm tree*, and your breasts [are] like clusters [of grapes]. 8 I said, I will go up in the palm tree*, I will take hold of its stalk. And please let your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the smell of your nose like apples; 9 and the roof of your mouth like the best wine for my Beloved, that goes [down] smoothly for My Beloved, flowing softly [over] the lips of sleeping ones. [Footnotes: *If her ³stature is like a palm tree, and [her] breasts [are] like clusters [of grapes].² then this describes some pretty intimate activity,i.e. Prov. 5:19 ³let her breasts* satisfy you at all times; and be ravished [enraptrured/intoxicated] always with her [erotic] love.²] €Her--- 10 ¶ I [am] my Beloved's, and His desire [is] toward me. 11 Come, my Beloved, let us go out into the field; let us stay in the villages. 12 Let us rise up early to the vineyards; . . .there I will give You my lovemakings. 13 The love-apples give a scent, and over our doors [are] all pleasant [fruits], new and old, which I have laid up for You, O my Beloved.............3 His left hand [would be] under my head, and His right embrace me. ......... 10 I [was] a wall, and my breasts like towers; then I was in His eyes as one finding peace. ............... 14 Hurry, my Beloved, and be like a gazelle, or a young deer, the stag, on the mountains* of spices. [Footnotes: * [her breasts] 5 Your two breasts [are] like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, feeding among the lilies. 6 Until when the day blows, and the shadows flee away, I will go to the mountain of myrrh and to the hill of frankincense. [her breasts]] *Part Two: WHAT ACTS/DEEDS/THOUGHTS ARE WRONG BETWEEN A WOMAN AND A MAN? €€€1. A wife should take hold of no other male's genitalia except for those of her own husband. MKJV DEUT. 25:11 When men strive together with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to deliver her husband out of the hand of him who strikes him, and puts forth her hand and takes him by the secret parts, 12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall not pity. The scriptures above are clear that the only person who should touch/work/caress/use the breasts, vulva, vagina, anus and rump of a female isher own male, her own husband, her only partner for sexual delight.The scriptures above are also clear that a wife should not touch/work/caress/use the genitals of any other male besides her own male, her own husband, her only partner for sexual delight (except for her male infants or patients who are unable to clean etcl their own genitalia/anus).But what do the scriptures say about an unmarried female touching/working/caressing/using the genitalia of her friend/lover, which lover is very careful not to touch/work/ caress/use her breasts, vulva, vagina, anus and rump since she is not yet his own wife/concubine? [The footnotes like "7901" are in the Appendix of Footnotes] € Ex 22:16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed , and lie down [i.e. have sexual relations] with her7901 , he shall surely endow her to be his wife . € Le 15:18 The woman also with whom [a] man shall lie down [have sexual relations] 7901 [with] seed/semen2233 of copulation/effusion/ejaculation7902 , they shall [both] bathe [themselves] in water , and be unclean until the even. € Le 15:24 And if any man lie down [i.e. have sexual relations] with her7901 at all , and her fluids5079 be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; . . . . . € Num. 5: 13 And a man lie down [have sexual relations] 7901 with her with semen/effusion7902 2233 , and it be hid from the eyes of her husband , and be kept close, and she be defiled2930 , and [there be] no witness against her, neither she be taken [with the manner]; . . . . € De 22:29 Then the man that lay down [had sexual relations] 7901 with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty [shekels] of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he has afflicted/humbled6031 her [in sexual connection], he may not put her away <07971> (8763) all his days <03117>. € Le 18:23 Neither shall you copulate7903 with any beast to defile2930 yourself with it: .. . . . neither shall any woman stand <05975> (8799) before a beast to lie down with it [for copulation]7250 € Le 20:13 If a man also lie down [have sexual relations]7901 with mankind, as he lies down [has sexual contact 4904] with a woman , both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death ; their blood [shall be] upon them. € Le 20:15 And if a man employ/designate/set/commit5414 a beast [for copulation], he shall surely be put to death : and you shall slay the beast. € Ezek. 23: 3 And they fornicated [had sexual intimacy outside of their own proper marriages <02181> (8799)] in Egypt; they committed fornications [had sexual intimacy outside of their own proper marriages <02181> (8799)] in their youth: there were their breasts/nipples7699 pressed/squeezed/bruised4600 , and there they did/pressed/squeezed6213 the breasts/nipples/teats1717 of their virginity1331. € Eze 23:8 Neither left she her fornications [sexual intimacy outside of their own proper marriages<08457>] [brought] from Egypt : for in her youth they [sexually/sensually] lay down7901 with her, and they did/pressed/squeezed6213 the breasts/nipples/teats1717 of the proofs of her virginity1331, and poured their fornications <08457> upon her. . . . .Yet she multiplied her harlotries, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the harlot in the land of Egypt. And she desired the forbidden of her immoral lovers, whose genitals are like those of donkeys and who ejaculation is like the ejaculation of horses. 21 Thus you called to remembrance the lewdness <02154> of thy youth , in doing/pressing/squeezing6213 your breasts/nipples/teats1717 by the Egyptians for the breasts/teats7699 of thy youth <05271>. € Le 20:18 And if a man shall [sexually/sensually] lie7901 with a woman having her sickness , and shall uncover1540 her external genitalia6172 ; he has made her FOUNTAIN4726 naked6168 , and she hath uncovered <01540> (8765) the FOUNTAIN4726 of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people. € Prov. 5: 18 Your FOUNTAIN4726 should be blessed <01288> (8803): and rejoice <08055> (8798) with the wife of your youth. 19 [She should be as] the loving hind and pleasant roe ; her breasts/nipples<1717> should satisfy/satiate/intoxicate <7301> you at all times <06256>; and be swerved/meandered/reeled/ rolled/intoxicated7686 always <08548> with her love/desire160 . 7901 sexually/sensually lie down with her <07901> (8804) 07901 shakab Strong's {shaw-kab'}a primitive root; v 1) to lie down [Young's also] 1a) (Qal 8802,8804) 1a1) to lie, lie down , lie on 1a3) to lie (of sexual relations [personal actions on vulva/breast/ nipple]) Davidson/Bagster: To lie with carnally [sexual/sensual acts on vulva/breast] Tyler: At least about sexual/sensual actions on the vulvua/breasts. The usage of 7901 in Lev. 20:13 shows that this intimacy is not limited to lying down with your lover, since many of the male to male sexual positions of homosexuality (oral sex, anal sex, genital petting) are done in other positions than those associated with lying down. Only the most blind and foolish would use these passages to say that only the heterosexual intimacy without marriage and homosexual activity that are done in a prone (lying down) position are sin. Obviously this concept of "[sexually/sensually] lie down with her7901]" is one of all genital relations whether sitting, standing, kneeling, or leaning. For sure it means any kind of penetration of another's body (breast in mouth, genital in genital, genital in mouth, genital in anus) in any position. Consider the following: Gen. 38:15 When Judah saw her, he thought her [to be] an harlot, because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned to her by the wayside, and said, "Here no, I ask you, let me come in you (enter you, go in you 0935)" (for he knew not that she [was] his daughter in law). And she said, "What will you give me, so that you may come in me (enter me, go in me 0935)?" 17 And he said, "I will send [thee] a kid from the flock." And she said, "Will you give [me] a pledge, until you send [it]?" 18 And he said, "What pledge shall I give thee?" And she said, "Your signet, and your bracelets, and your staff that [is] in your hand." And he gave [it] to her, and came in her (entered her, went in her 0935), and she conceived by him. [0935 bow' {bo} a primitive root; TWOT - 212; v 1) to go in, enter 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to enter, come in] There is no scripture that I am aware of that would extend this passage to include a female's sensual/sexual acts on/with the penis of her friend/lover that don't involve her vulva and/or breasts. However, the fact that Lev. 15:18, 24 are linked with Ex. 22:16 in the act of sexual relations with a woman "[sexually/sensually] lie down with her7901]", it would seem logical that SINCE it is not a sin for man to sexually/sensually lie down with his own woman with seed/semen of copulation/effusion/ejaculation, AND SINCE it is a sin for a man to sexually/sensually lie down with a woman who does not become his own woman, THEN IT PROBABLY IS WRONG/SIN for a man to sexually/sensually lie down with seed/semen of copulation/ effusion/ejaculation with a woman (the sperm on/in her hands, mouth, anus, between her breasts or any other part of her body) who does not become his own woman or isn't his own woman. This apparently indicates that penis petting or mouthing (with sperm effusion/ejaculation) by a woman who does not become your own, or already is your own, is wrong/sin/error. €€€2.Sexual intercourse, handling of breasts, working nipples outside of marriage are sin: Ezekiel 23: 1 ¶ The word of the LORD came again to me, 2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother. 3 And they had-sex-outside-of- their-marriages in Egypt; they had-sex-outside-marriage in their youth, their breasts were handled, and there their virgin nipples were worked. 5 .... And she desired-to-do-the-forbidden-with her lovers, to [her] Assyrian neighbors, . . . 7 So she bestowed her sex-outside-of-her-marriage on them, the choice sons of Assyria; [with] all of them, and with all with whom she desired-to-do- the-forbidden; she defiled herself with all their idols. 8 Nor did she leave her sexual-intimacies-outside-of-marriage from Egypt. For in her youth they sexually lay with her, and they worked her virgin nipples, and poured their sexual-intimacies-outside-of- marriage on her. . . . .20 And she desired-to-do-the-forbidden on her lovers, whose penis is like the penis of asses and whose [ejaculated] sperm [is like] the [ejaculated sperm] of horses. 21 So you longed for the wickedness of your youth, when the Egyptians worked your nipples, for the sake of the breasts of your youth. €€€3. Only a husband should uncover his own wife's genitals Ezekiel 23:17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with sexual-intimacies-outside-of- marriage. And she was defiled with them, and her mind was alienated from them. 18 So she uncovered her sexual- intimacies-outside-of-marriage and uncovered her genitals. . . .29 And they shall deal with you in hatred, and shall take away all your labor, and shall leave you naked and bare. And the exposed genitals of your sexual-intimacies-outside-of-marriage shall be uncovered, both your wickedness and your sexual-intimacies- outside-of-marriage. Ezekiel 16:35 ¶ Therefore, O woman-having-sex-outside-of- marriage, hear the word of the LORD. 36 So says the Lord Jehovah: Because your lewdness was poured out and your genitals were bared in your sexual-intimacies-outside-of- marriage with your lovers, ... 37 behold, therefore I will gather all your lovers, with whom you have been pleased, even all [whom] you loved, with all whom you have hated; I will even gather them against you from all around, and will uncover your genitalia to them, and they will see all your genitals. 39 And I will also give you into their hand, and they will tear down your mound, and will demolish your high places. They shall also strip you of your clothes, and shall take your beautiful things, and leave you naked and bare. . . . . 40 They shall also raise a company against you, and they shall stone you with stones, and cut you with their swords. 41 And they shall burn your houses with fire, and execute judgments on you in the sight of many women. €€€4. You shouldn't have orgasms with a woman nor embrace the breasts/ genitalia of a woman who is not your wife € Proverbs 5:18. Let your fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of your youth. 19. [Let her be as] the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts* satisfy you at all times; and be ravished [enraptrured/intoxicated] always with her [erotic] love. 20. And why will you, my son, be 13>ravished with some 14>alien woman, and embrace the 15>bosom/lap of a 16>stranger? 21. For the ways of man [are] before the eyes of the LORD, and he ponders all his goings. 22. His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be held with the cords of his sins. [FOOTNOTE:13>enraptrured/intoxicated/orgasm; see note 20:1; 14> [ZAR=STRANGER {PRV.2:16;5:3,10,17,20; 6:1}ALIEN] 15> [CHEQ=INLET:BOSOM {GEN.16:5; EX. 4:6,7;DT.13:6;28:54,56;2 SAM.12:3,8;1 KG.1:2;3:20} BOTTOM {LAP, HOLLOW PART: AT THE BASE/GROUND EZK.43:13,14}, LAP {BOSOM, CENTER:PRV.16:33}, MIDST; 1. in a conjugal sense,feelings affections; 2. in a dishonest sense prv5:20; 3.bosom, lappet of a garment; 4. inside/hollow place in a chariot or altarEZ43:13] . Ron note: the vagina is an hollow part & inlet between the lap and the bottom16> [NOKRI= STRANGE, A STRANGER OR FOREIGNER:ALIEN {UNKNOWN:DT. 14:21}, FOREIGNER {UNKNOWN:DT. 15:3}, OUTLANDSH {NEH.13:26}; STRANGE + STRANGER= {RUTH 2:10; 1 KI. 11:1,8; EZ. 2:10;PRV. 2:16;5:10; 6:24; 7:5; 20:16; 23:27}.] € Ezekiel 16:15 ¶ But you trusted in your beauty, and had-sex- outside-of-her-marriage because of your name, and poured out your sexual-intimacy-outside-of-marriage on all who passed by; [your genitals were] his. . . . .25 You have built your high place at the head of every way, and have made your beauty to be despised, and have opened your feet [for sex] to everyone who passed by, and have multiplied your sexual-intimacies-outside- of-marriage. € 1 Corinthians 6:9 ¶ Do you not know that unrighteous [persons] shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not err: neither 1>fornicators, nor idolaters, nor 2>adulterers , ...shall inherit [the] kingdom of God. 1 Corinth. 6:13 ... the body [is] not for sexual sin, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then, taking the members of the Christ, make [them] members of a female-who-does-sex-outside- of-marriage? Far be the thought. 16 Do you not know that he [that is] joined to the female-who- does-sex-outside- of-marriage is one body? for the two, he says, shall be one flesh. 17 But he that [is] joined to the Lord is one Spirit. 18 Flee sex- outside-of-marriage. Every sin which a man may practise is without the body, but he that commits sex- outside-of-his-own-marriage, sins against his own body. [FOOTNOTES:1>those who have sexual intimacy outside of their own marriage or without being married; a whore is also a female who does sexual sin for free or who pays for it. 2 >those who have sexual intimacy either with someone other than their own mate or repudiate their mates to take other mates] €€€5. Using pictures, videos, films, tapes, books, magazines or etc. for imagining sexual intercourse/connection/intimacy with someone else besides your own mate is sin. € Ezekiel 16:16 And you took from your clothes and adorned your high places with different colors, and did sexual-intimacy-outside-of- marriage on them, [such as] had not come, nor shall be. 17 And you have taken beautiful things of My gold and of My silver, which I had given you, and made images of males, and had sexual-intimacy- outside-of-marriage with them. €€€6. PAYING/REWARDING IN ANY WAY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT YOUR MARITAL PARTNER TO BE SEXUALLY INTIMATE WITH YOU IS SEXUAL SIN. €Ezekiel 16:30 How weak is your heart, says the Lord Jehovah, since you do all these, the work of a woman, an overbearing woman-who-has-sex-without-marriage; 31 . . . . Yet you have not been as a woman-who-has-sex-without-marriage, scorning wages. 32 [Like] the adulterous wife, instead of her husband, she takes strangers. 33 They give a gift to all women- who-have-sex-without-marriage, but you give your gifts to all your lovers, and bribe them to come to you from all around, for your 3>fornication. 34 And in you was the opposite from [those] women in your 3>fornications, since no one 4>whores after you, and in your giving wages, and hire is not given to you. [In] this you are opposite. 41 And they shall burn your houses with fire, and execute judgments on you in the sight of many women. And I will make you stop having-sex-outside-of-your-marriage; and also, you shall not give hire again. [footnotes:3> [those who have sexual intimacy outside of their own marriage or without being married ] a whore is also a female who does sexual sin for free or who pays for it; 4> a whore is also a female who does sexual sin for free or who pays for it] €€€7. Homosexuality and sodomy are sin Homosexuality, lesbianism and sex with animal are sin, a falling short of the standard set by God; trespass and transgression, going across God's boundaries, going beyond His limits. €1Ki 14:24 And there were also sodomites <6945>in the land: [and] they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel. 06945 qadesh {kaw-dashe'} 1) male temple prostitute [The worshipper of the god has sexual relations with the temple prostitute as part of his/her worship of the temple god, and gives an offering to the prostitute as a priest of the god] 1Ki 15:12 And he took away the sodomites <6945> out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. 1Ki 22:46 And the remnant of the sodomites<6945>, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land. 2Ki 23:7 And he brake down the houses of the sodomites<6945>, that [were] by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove. € Le 18:23 Neither shall you copulate <7903> with any beast to [sexually] defile <2930> yourself with it: .. . . . neither shall any woman stand <05975> (8799) before a beast to lie down with it [for copulation] <7250> . . . . 07903 shekobeth Strong's {shek-o'-beth}from 07901; n f 1) copulation [FunkWagnall: 1. sexual intercourse/connection; coition. 2. A coupling or being coupled; union] Young's: To give an effusion [sperm ejaculation, especially the sperm entering another body cavity] € Le 20:13 If a man also [sexually/sensually] lie down <7901> with mankind, as he lies down <4904> with a woman [for sexual contact] , both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death ; their blood [shall be] upon them. .........07901 shakab Strong's {shaw-kab'}a primitive root; v .........1) to lie down [Young's also] ......... 1a) (Qal 8802,8804) ......... 1a1) to lie, lie down , lie on ......... 1a3) to lie (of sexual relations [personal actions on .........vulva/breast/ nipple]) .........Davidson/Bagster: To lie with carnally [sexual/sensual acts on .........vulva/breast] .........Tyler: At least about sexual/sensual actions on the .........vulvua/breasts. .........04904 mishkab {mish-kawb'} from 07901; TWOT - 2381c; n m .........1) a lying down, couching, biering, act of lying ......... 1a) couching, bedding ......... 1b) act of lying, lying down ......... 1c) lying down (for sexual contact) € Le 20:15 And if a man employ/designate/set/commit <5414> a beast [for copulation], he shall surely be put to death : and you shall slay the beast. € 1 Cor. 6: 9 ¶ Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators [doing the above with women] , nor idolaters [those who have other Gods than Jesus], nor adulterers [those who sexually have someone else's mate], nor abusers [catamites, those (boys/males)1 who let themselves be used homosexually (including women?)**], nor [male] homosexuals [sodomites], 10 nor thieves, nor covetous [those not content with what God has provided], nor drunkards [addicts], nor revilers [verbal abusers], nor extortioners, shall inherit [the] kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. [** Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections : for even their women <2338> did change <3337> (5656) the natural <5446> use <5540> into that which is against <3844> nature <5449>: 3337 metallasso {met-al-las'-so}1) to exchange, change 5656 Tense - Aorist Voice - Active Mood - Indicative This means that once and for all they exhanged or changed their natural use for the unnatural, which for sure means having sex with animals (Lev. 18) and includes lesbianism. The equivalence that God gave is as clear as 2 + 3 = 5 = 3 + 2 = 5 I wont bother* you with all the Greek usage, definitions and cross references, but God's use of a verbal = sign in Rom. 1:27 ("and likewise", "and in equal manner") shows that the conduct graphically described in Rom. 1:27 is the same behavior vaguely described in Rom. 1:26 (same sex genital to genital, same sex genital to mouth or anus). That would make any form of lesbianism, including bisexuality, as disgraceful and contrary to God's design as homosexuality. 1 Corinthians 6:9 ¶ Do you not know that unrighteous [persons] shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not err: neither 5>fornicators, nor idolaters, nor 6>adulterers, nor 7>males-who-make-women-of-themselves, nor 8>those who 9>abuse themselves with male persons, 10. ......shall inherit [the] kingdom of God. 1 Tim.1:8 Now we know that the law [is] good if any one uses it lawfully, 9. knowing this, that law has not its application to a righteous person, but to [the] lawless and insubordinate, to [the] impious and sinful, to [the] unholy and profane, to smiters of fathers and smiters of mothers; to murderers,10 10>fornicators, 11>sodomites, kidnappers, liars, perjurers; and if any other thing is opposed to sound teaching, 11 according to the glad tidings of the glory of the blessed God, with which *I* have been entrusted. See Jude 7 also. [FOOTNOTES:5>[those who have sexual intimacy outside of their own marriage or without being married ] a whore is also a female who does sexual sin for free or who pays for it; 6> [those who have sexual intimacy either with someone other than their own mate or repudiate their mates to take other mates]; 7> [catamite homosexuals]; 8> [male homosexuals/ pederasts/sodomites]; 9> [sodomize]; 10> See footnote #5; 11> [male homosexual] From the above I conclude that pornography includes pictures/images/films of males who are "whores" for other males, of males who are intimate with each others (male-male) genitals, and males who "prostitute" themselves for/to other males; and pictures/images/films of females who are "whores" for other females, of females who are intimate with the genitals of other females, and females who "prostitute" themselves for/to other females. IS IT PORNOGRAPHY (WHORE PHOTOS)? IS IT WRONG (SIN)? WHAT IS PORNOGRPAHY IN THE LIGHT OF THE ABOVE (EZEK. 16 & 23; PROV. 5, 6 & 7)? Pornography is not a matter of immodesty, according to the context of DBY 1Ti 2:9* In like manner also that the women in decent deportment and dress adorn themselves with modesty and discretion, not with plaited [hair] and gold, or pearls, or costly clothing, The modesty there is the modesty of kosmios {kos'-mee-os} which means "well arranged, seemly, modest", and the modesty in that context is the modesty of not having fancy hair styles, or wearing of costly gold, pearls or clothing. It is the modesty of humility. We have seen above that it is lewd and ungodly for a woman to show (for enjoyment) her vulva, vagina, buttocks/rump crack to any one except her own Biblically proper husband (Ezek. 16 & 23; Jer. 13:22,26; Hos. 2:3; Nahum 3:5; Isa. 3:17; Rev. 3:18). We have found that there is no explicit, specific or direct command for a woman to cover her breasts, except for the principles of Romans 14. Is there any other part of the woman's body that is not to be seen by someone else besides her own husband? What about this passage---- €Isa. 47:1 1 ¶ Come down, and sit on the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground. [There is] no throne [for you], O daughter of the Chaldeans. For you shall no more be called tender and delicate.2 Take the millstones , and grind meal <07058>: remove <01540> (8761) your veil <06777>, strip off <02834> (8798) the flowing skirt <07640>, uncover/reveal/show/lay bare <01540> (8761) the thigh/leg <07785>, pass over the rivers . 3 Your nudity/pudenda <06172> shall be uncovered/shown/revealed <01540> (8735), yes, your shame/reproach <02781> shall be seen : I will take vengeance , and I will not meet [you as] a man . [See the in the Appendix of footnotes] Obviously the context indicates that the raising of the skirt and the uncovering of the leg revealed her genitalia, so it does not include the uncovering of the leg when the genitalia are properly covered. Isaiah 20 and its cross references (2 Sam. 10:4; 1 Chron. 19:4) seem to indicate that it is a shame, a falling short of his mark, an error, a sin for one's buttocks/rump, especially the "valley of the anus", to be seen in public. "Mooning" is an example of this. Phil. 4:8 with Romans 1:31,32 would seem to indicate the error in taking pleasure in the public exposure of someone else's bottocks/rump. If the angle is right (a woman bent over), such exposure of the buttocks/rump also involves the exposure of the genitals, and that is double error/trouble. Understood that the Greek word porneia (our porno) indicates a harlot/whore/adulteress----any woman who lets someone else besides her own Biblically proper husband enjoy/see/touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump. Of course pornography includes the man who enjoys/sees/touches/crasses/ handles/ fondles/works/ uses/licks/ sucks the breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump of any woman who is not his Biblically proper wife. Understood that "graphy" of pronography is the word indicating pictures/ words/symbols/images/likenesses. So pornography consists of pictures/ words/symbols/images/likenesses of the woman described above, and the man described above. So any pictures of this kind of woman or man would be Biblical pornography, even if they were dressed up or in bathing suits. Pictures/words/symbols/images/likenesses of lewd women not know to be harlots are also pornography (see Jer. 11 & 13; Ezekiel 16, 23 & 24; Hosea 6). A lewd woman is one who uses her body get you to mentally enjoy/see/ touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump. She may not show her vulva, vagina or buttocks/rump, but her plan, device, wickedness, evil plan, mischievous purpose is to get you (male or female) to mentally enjoy/see/ touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump. So pornography consists of pictures/words/ symbols/images/likenesses of the lewd woman described above. So any pictures of this kind of woman would be Biblical pornography, even if she were dressed up or in bathing suits. Understood that the Greek word porneia (our porno) indicates a man who acts like a harlot/whore/adulteress----any man who lets another man enjoy/see/touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck his genital and/or buttocks/rump; or who lets someone else's wife enjoy/see/touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck his genital and/or buttocks/rump; or who publicly shows his genitals (Gen. 35:11; 37:34;Jer 30:6 ;Jer 48:37 Eze 44:18; Acts 2:30; Heb. 7:10). Understood that "graphy" of pronography is the word indicating pictures/words/symbols/ images/likenesses. So pornography consists of pictures/words/symbols/ images/likenesses of the man described above. So any pictures of this kind of man would be Biblical pornography, even if he were dressed up or in bathing suits. From Romans 1 and 1 Cor. 6 we know that Pictures/words/symbols/images/ likenesses of lewd men not know to be homosexuals adulterers or whoremongers are also pornography (see Jer. 11 & 13; Ezekiel 16, 23 & 24; Hosea 6). A lewd man is one who uses his body get you (male or female) to mentally enjoy/see/ touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump. His plan, device, wickedness, evil plan, mischievous purpose is to get males to mentally enjoy/see/ touch/caress/ handle/ fondle/ work/ use/ lick/suck his genital and buttocks/rump; and to get women not married to him to imagine his genital in connection with her breasts, vulva, vagina or buttocks/rump. So pornography consists of pictures/words/ symbols/images/likenesses of the lewd man described above. So any pictures of this kind of man would be Biblical pornography, even if he were dressed up or in bathing suits. If you do a study of the words "bare" and "naked" you see a significant difference. A woman who is bare or bared is a woman exposing her vulva/genitals/vagina/ buttocks/rump for the enjoyment of some one other than her own Biblically proper husband, and this is the error/sin/shame of lewdness. It is being naked and bare (exposure of vulva, vagina, buttocks/rump) that is the error/sin. The repentance of such lewdness is to stop doing it (Prov. 28:13) No where in the Bible is a woman condemned or denounced for being naked, but having been found naked inappropriately, the remedy is covering or clothing appropriately worn. In the Bible anyone who is naked in public is instructed to cover at least their penis, vulva, vagina, and/or buttocks/rump. Pictures and images of publicly naked women or men who are not sex- sinners are pictures of people who have missed God's mark (sinned) for their public appearance. If such nude pictures are not of harlots and sex-sinners, then those pictures are not pornography, but they fall short of God's standards and requirements. To take pleasure in and enjoy pictures/images of naked people is to partake in their error (sin) (Romans 1:31,32; 1 Cor. 5 & 6). PORNOGRAPHY IS NOT pictures/words/symbols/images/likenesses of a woman who covers only her vagina/vulva/buttocks/rump and who is a woman who lets only her own proper husband touch/caress/handle/fondle/ work/ use/lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump. There is no scriptural denunciation or condemnation of topless women, women or fashion models or photo models in bikini type garments, women with only loin cloths on, who let only their own proper husbands touch/caress/handle/fondle/work/ use/lick/suck her breasts, nipples, vulva, vagina and buttocks/rump; who do not "bare" or expose their vulvas, vaginas, buttocks/rumpes; and who do not use their bodies to cause others to imagine sex sin with them. However any such woman, especially in countries like America, needs to carefully examine the way they cover themselves in light of Romans 14 and the command to unselfishly and compassionately cherish their brothers and sisters in Christ. The Romans 14 principles that permit the African/Indian/Chinese/Burmese/Tahitian women to go topless and semi-nude in their communities as they do their daily activities, are the same Romans 14 principles that would move the American "sisters" to cover well their breasts, buttox and thighs when around "brothers" in a fellowship setting. If you are in a country or culture (South Pacific, Bali, SE Asia, India, China, Africa, Latin American Indians, aborigines, Japanese pearl divers etc.) where women are often topless for breast feeding, to keep cool, or because that is the way they dress there, you have no scriptural right to tell them to cover their breasts. If it is stumbling you, you need to leave that place because obviously you are not spiritually strong enough to keep you mind straight and your spirit right. I am so Westernized that I could not handle sitting next to a Mexican Indian as she breast fed her baby on the bus, or the Mexican sister who breast fed her baby in church. I had to move out of view. So should you if you can't handle it when women dress so. If that means not going to beach where women are exposing their breasts and rumps, and/or where men barely cover their genitals, then that means not going to the beach except on very cold and windy days. Since it is not, in and of itself, a sin (in thought or deed) to just touch/caress/handle/ fondle/ work/ use/lick/suck the ears, ear lobes, nose, lips, tongue, chin, throat, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, back, belly, legs and/or feet (with no sinful thought of, or sinful deed involving, her breasts, vulva or buttocks)---------- of a woman who is not your Biblically proper wife, ---------- then neither these acts or pictures/images of these acts constitute pornography, if the people involved are not sex-sinners (whores and whoremongers). If it is foolish, if it is offensive to any who know of it, if it pulls you into sin rather than building you up in the Lord and keeping you straight in the Lord, and if you have doubts about such activities, then it is wrong for you to do such activities. So it is not a "sin" to be a masseuse, give massages, imagine such activities or pose for such pictures etc., as long as the scriptures are obeyed and the principles of Romans 14 are observed. Pornography often involves "masturbation" or self-stimulation. There is no scripture that says the act of stimulating yourself to orgasm is a sin. There are many scriptures that say that if you are thinking sin, thinking of sin, imagining sin etc. while self- stimulating, then you are sinning. A spouse absent from his/her mate who self-stimulates to orgasm thinking of him/her, is simply obeying the Provebs 5 command to be in orgasmic ecstasy with your mate. If a male is self-stimulating, thinking of just touching/caressing/handling/ fondling/ working/ using/licking/sucking the ears, ear lobes, nose, lips, tongue, chin, throat, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, back, belly, legs and/or feet (with no sinful thought of, or sinful deed involving, her breasts, vulva or buttocks)---------- of a single woman who is not his Biblically proper wife, ---------- then there is no scripture that I am aware of that condemns it, if the woman involved is not a sex-sinner (whores described above). Because of 1 Thess. 4 and the need to stay clear of sin, I would never encourage a male to think of just touching/caressing/handling/ fondling/ working/ using/licking/sucking the ears, ear lobes, nose, lips, tongue, chin, throat, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, back, belly, legs and/or feet (with no sinful thought of, or sinful deed involving, her breasts, vulva or buttocks)---------- of another man's woman. Too many dangers!!!!! If a female is self-stimulating, thinking of just touching/caressing/handling/ fondling/ working/ using/licking/sucking the ears, ear lobes, nose, lips, tongue, chin, throat, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, back, belly, legs and/or feet (with no sinful thought of, or sinful deed involving, her breasts, vulva or buttocks)---------- of a man who is not her Biblically proper husband, ---------- then there is no scripture that I am aware of that condemns it, if the man involved is not a sex-sinner (whores/fornicators described above). Because of 1 Thess. 4 and the need to stay clear of sin, I would never encourage a wife to think of just touching/caressing/handling/ fondling/ working/ using/licking/sucking the ears, ear lobes, nose, lips, tongue, chin, throat, neck, shoulders, arms, hands, back, belly, legs and/or feet (with no sinful thought of, or sinful deed involving, her breasts, vulva or buttocks)---------- of a man other than her own man. Too many dangers!!!!! How does your behavior match God's standard in these matters? What kinds of people, images, magazines, videos, web sites etc. are you allowing into your life, remembering that God's standard in Philip. 4:8. Here is a check off list for you---------------- ***IS IT PORNOGRAPHY? AN INVENTORY LIST 1. IF YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING SEXUALLY INTIMATE AND THEY ARE NOT MARRIED TO EACH OTHER, THEN GET RID OF IT (1 THESS 5:21). To enjoy or delight in their fornication is to applaud, approve of or consent to those who do the sinful actions, making you worthy of death. (Rom. 1:32) 2. Is the genital and/or buttocks/rump crack exposed??? Ezek. ch. 16 and ch. 23 Isa. 20 with Phil. 4:8 and ³I will set no vile thing before my eyes² psa,101:3==YOU DON¹T BUY/GET IT or set it before your eyes DON¹T LOOK AT ANY PICTURES OF THoSE WHO DO SUCH SINS, NO PICTURES OF PEOPLE WITH EXPOSED GENITALS, OF EXTRAMARITAL SEX, OF LESBIANISM! Psalm 101:3,4; Phil. 4:8 3. DON¹T GO TO/ASSOCIATE/FELLOWSHIP WITH IMMORAL PEOPLE who want to have sexual intimacy with each other or you outside of marriage. DON¹T BE ALONE WITH IMMORAL PEOPLE who want to have sexual intimacy with you outside of marriage. 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1; 1 Cor. 5:9-11; Proverbs chapters 5,6 & 7; ROM. 13:14 4. GET RID OF ANY PICTURES, magazines, videos, addresses, phone #¹s OR ETC. THAT TEMPT YOU TO DO SIN, OR CAUSE YOU TO SIN. Rom. 13:14; 2 Timothy 2:19-22 5. KEEP YOURSELF FROM THEIR SINFUL ACTIONS AND HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THOSE WHO DO SUCH SINFUL ACTIONS, and so escape death. Do not applaud, approve of or consent to thOSE who do sinful actions. (Rom. 1:32;Psa. 15:4) 6. GET RID OF ANYTHING THAT IS CLEARLY AND PLAINLY SINFUL, FORBIDDEN by God, spiritually STUMBLING YOU, morallyOFFENDING YOU, GRIEVING your conscience. 2 Cor. 7; Rom. 13:14; 2 Timothy 2:19-22 7. Are they naked in public, IN magazines, in photos for the public? It is not enough if the nude model is careful not to let her vagina, labia, and buttocks/rump crack be seen. God didn¹t have nude Eve just be careful to keep her legs and buns closed and her hand over her vulva. God clothed her, covering her vulva and buttocks/rump crack with something in addition to her pubic and anal hair and hand. It goes to the ³naked and bare² shame of Ezek 16 and 23 where public nudity, bareness, exposure of vaginal labia and buttocks/rump---are a shame and a disgrace, a punishable offense in the eyes of God. Definitely not a Phil. 4:8 for a believer. Gen. 3 God wants our nakedness (genitalia) clothed in public and in public photos. Gen.3;Matt. 25:36; Rev. 3:17 8. ³They exchanged the truth of God for a lie... Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts...Although they know God¹s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve** of those who practice them.² Romans 1 **=applaud, have pleasure in, agree with. You don¹t want to be found approving, applauding, pleasuring in or agreeing with the vile doers or their vile deeds unless you want to share their death. (Psa. 15:4; 101:3,4) A CHECK OFF LIST __ 1. Do the women involved open their feet/legs/thighs to show their genitals publicly? One who does this is ³lewd², ³weak of heart², and does the ³work of a whore², a vile person to be condemned [psa. 15:4].EZ 16 & 23. GET RID OF IT! Rom. 13:14; 2 Timothy 2:19-22 ___ 2. Do they scorn pay/reward for sex sin acts, and/or even pay &/or reward their lovers for their sex? Then they are whores. Ez 16 DON¹T GO TO,watch or enjoy THEM. Romans 1:32 ___ 3. Do they accept salary/pay/reward for acts of sexual sin? Pornography stars, models, people are harlots and vile. Ez 16 DON¹T GO TO,watch,or enjoy THEM! Psalm 15:4 ___ 4. Are they having sex with someone else besides their mate? This is adultery/fornication and worthy of death/ Hell (Rom. 1:32). EZ 16 DON¹T GO TO, watch or enjoy THEM! ___ 5. Do they have sex with others than their own mates insatiably? They are vile and whores worthy of death (Rom 1:32; 1 Cor. 6). Ez 16 DON¹T GO TO, watch or enjoy THEM! Psalm 101:3,4 ___ 6. Are they involved in breast pressing and breast/ labia handling by others than their own mates? Proverbs 5, Ezekiel 16 & 23. Whores and the vile do this and are worthy of death (Rom 1:32). It is fornication and those who keep on doing it shall not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor. 6). KEEP YOURSELF FROM THEIR SINFUL ACTIONS AND HAVE NO PLEASURE IN them or THEIR SINFUL ACTIONS. ___7. Do you want to do sinful things in your mind with the people in the pictures? You are snared by the Evil and are worthy of death. Ezek. 23:14-16; Matt. 5:28 KEEP YOURSELF FROM them and THOSE PICTURES. ___ 8. Do they make public (in magazines, adds, movies, on the street) their whorish behavior? Ez. 23:16-18 ___9. Do they make public their genitals/labia? EZ. 23:16-18 Don¹t enjoy them or their immodesty even in the pictures where their genitals are covered because covered or uncovered they are still them and they are to be avoided and scornfully despised but prayed for (1 Tim 2:1; Psalm 15:4; 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1). ___10. Are they naked in public, in photos for the public? Gen. 3 God wants our genitals clothed in public and in public photos.Gen.3 Matt. 25:36; Rev. 3:17 COVER THEIR NAKEDNESS? That is NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL THOSE WHO DO SUCH THINGS AND YOU MUST NOT TAKE PLEASURE IN THEM. Don¹t enjoy them or their immodest EVEN IF THEIR GENITALS are covered. Rom.1:32 ___11. Did God tell them to be naked in public? Apparently a male prophet can be naked publicly if God tells you to do so.Isaiah 20 ___12a. Do they uncover their buts/bottoms so they are naked publicly? It is a shame before God. Isa. 20:2-4 ___12b. Does they show off, pridefully display their genitals? PHILIPPIANS 3:19 with Ezek. 16 and 23. Don¹t enjoy them, for they are to be rebuked and scornfully despised, but prayed for. ___13. Does she dress or undress in such a place/way to stumble, tempt, offend someone? Stay away from her and keep her stuff away from you. Prov. 5 & 6 & 7; Rom. 14 + 1 Tim. 2:9,10 ___14. Do you obey God by not setting before your eyes anything that is, according to God, worthless or evil or wicked or ungodly--- like pictures of vile people showing their genitals &/or immorality? Do you, even if they are clothed decently and presentably, whether or not you/they have covered their genitals? Psa. 101:3; Phil. 4:8 ___15. Do you understand that a person is body, soul and spirit (1 Thes. 5:23)? Do you understand that this means that you are to scornfully despise the body, soul and spirit of the vile/ wicked/ evil person who does sexual sin? (Psalm 15:4; 101:3,4) ___16. Do you understand that even if you can¹t see their faces, even if you don¹t know WHO they are, that God wants you to scornfully despise their bodies, whatever part of them you can see, while you pray for them? 1 Tim 2:1 Psalm 15:4 ___17..DO YOU SET NO WICKED THING BEFORE YOUR EYES AS YOU WOULD HAVE TO IN ORDER TO CENSOR IT? No? I have a woman do it? Then I have caused her to set a wicked thing before her eyes and she could get hooked on it. I do it in the dark without my glasses so I can¹t really see it? THE QUESTION IS NOT ³CAN YOU SEE THEM IN THEIR SIN?² BUT DO YOU SET THE WICKED PEOPLE DOING THEIR THING BEFORE YOUR EYES? YES YOU DO SET THE WICKED PEOPLE DOING THEIR WICED SIN BEFORE YOUR EYES WHEN YOU CENSOR/EDIT THEIR PICTURES. SO YOU MUST NOT SET PORNOGRAPHIC PICTURES BEFORE YOUR EYES EVEN IF YOU CAN¹T SEE CLEARLY BECAUSE OF NO GLASSES OR BECAUSE OF DARKNESS. ___18. DO YOU HATE THE PORNOGRAPHIC WORK OF THOSE WHO SHOW GENITALS AND PRACTICE FORNICATION FOR PAY AND FILMING? ³I cover their genitals, faces and their personhood.² NO GOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SET WICKEDNESS BEFORE YOUR FACE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. ___19. DO YOU DESPISE THE REPROBATE WHO BARES GENITALS AND FORNICATES? ³I cover their genitals, faces and their personhood.² NO GOOD BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU COVER THEIR GENITALS THEY ARE STILL THE REPROBATES WHO BARED THEIR GENITALS AND/OR FORNICATED. ___20. Does the questionable behavior involve hand to genital behavior? Apparently you should have hand to genital relations only with your own mate. Deut. 25:11 11 KJV When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:12 Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity [her]. DBY 11 When men fight together one with another, and the wife of the one come near to rescue her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and stretch out her hand, and seize him by his secret parts,12 thou shalt cut off her hand; thine eye shall not spare. MKJV 11 When men strive together with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to deliver her husband out of the hand of him who strikes him, and puts forth her hand and takes him by the secret parts, 12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall not pity. YLT 11 `When men strive together, one with another, and the wife of the one hath drawn near to deliver her husband out of the hand of his smiter, and hath put forth her hand, and laid hold on his secrets,12 then thou hast cut off her hand, thine eye doth not spare. ___21. Are the people doing things that are obviously sinful and condemned by God (e.g. lesbianism, homosexuality,bestiality, female with more than one male, sodomy, violence etc.) 1 THESS 5:21 GET RID OF THE STUFF Rom 13:14 ___22. Are the people involved doing a sinful act (two unmarried being intimate, lesbianism) ? GET RID OF IT ___23. Do you agree with God honoring those who fear Him and scornfully despising those vile and depraved reprobates who sin by showing their genitals or fornication in public, magazines &/or videos; whether or not they are clothed decently and presentably, whether or not you/they have covered their genitals? Psalm 15:4 ___24. Do you agree with God honoring those who fear Him and hating the deeds/work of the fallen &/or faithless who sin by showing their genitals &/or fornication in public, magazines &/or videos? Do you, even if they are clothed decently and presentably, whether or not you/they have covered their genitals? Psalm101:3 ____25. Are their vaginas/labias exposed through/in their sex sin? EZ 16:35,36 You shouldn¹t even set it before your eyes and do not delight* in (esteem, admire, applaud, approve of, consent to, agree with, sympathize with, have a favorable opinion of, have fellowship with, or accept as satisfactory) the people who do sex sin and/or bare their genitals? ROM. 1:32 Even if you cover their genitals and their faces, they are still immoral women who open their legs to show their genitals and you must not delight* in (esteem, admire, applaud, approve of, consent to, agree with, sympathize with, have a favorable opinion of, have fellowship with, or accept as satisfactory) the people who do sex sin and/or bare their genitals? ROM. 1:32 ___26. Do you agree with God honoring those who fear Him and scornfully despising those vile and depraved reprobates who sin by showing their genitals or fornication in public, magazines &/or videos? Psalm 15:4 DO YOU CONTEMN THE VILE AND DEPRAVED PERSON WHO BARES GENITALS AND FORNICATES? [psa. 15:4] ³I cover their genitals, faces and personhood.² EVEN IF YOU COVER THEIR GENITALS ETC THEY ARE STILL THOSE WHO DO WICKEDLY. ___27. In contrast to God, do you approve of them (clothed or not) who sin by shewing their genitals &/or fornication in public, magazines, &/or videos? Do you say they are okay? Do you accept them for your eyes and soul? Got a problem![Rom. 1:32, ANT&NIV] ___a. Do you have/express a favorable opinion of them? Got a problem! ___b. Do you accept them as okay/satisfactory? ___c. Do you accept them, giving them your esteem and admiration? Got a problem! ___28. In contrast to God, do you applaud those (clothed or not) who show their genitals &/or fornication in public, magazines &/or videos? Do you express your approval and delight in them [by arousal, erection, orgasm, praise, encouragement, celebration]? Got a problem![Rom.1:32, ANT] ___29. Do they please you who displease God by showing their genitals &/or fornication in public, magazines &/or videos? Do you like them (clothed or not)? Do they give you pleasure? Do they make you feel good sexually? Do you take &/or get pleasure in &/or from them? [Rom. 1:32, Wuest] ___30. Do you consent to them (clothed or not), making an emotional/ personal commitment/stand for/with them by agreeing/yielding/acquiescing to them so that they have access to your soul/eyes/mind by mags, videos or etc.? [Rom 1:32, Berk.Int. + ASV + AG & TH. ___31.Do you * delight* in (esteem, admire, applaud, approve of, consent to, agree with, sympathize with, have a favorable opinion of, have fellowship with, or accept as satisfactory) the people who do sex sin and/or bare their genitals? ROM. 1:32 No, I cover their faces so so they are no longer personalities, but just bodies that can¹t be identified as a person. *Amp.B: ...but approve & applaud others who practice them. *NIV: ...but also approve of those who practice them(ag). approve:have or express a favorable opinion of them accept them as satisfactory, give them sanction to be esteemed or admired *Peshita:.but also associate with those who practice them *ASV:..but also consent with them that practise them. *AGTH:are pleased at the same time with those that do them are consenting to those that do them (ag) are agreeing with those that do them (ag) are applauding those that do them are sympathizing with those who do them (ag) *IF YOU KNOW/KNEW SHE BARES/D HER GENITALS PUBLICLY,THEN YOU MUST NOT 1.approve of HER OR HER BODY OR desire to do sin with her 2.express a favorable opinion of HER OR HER BODY , 3. accept HER OR HER BODY as satisfactory, 4. give sanction to HER OR HER BODY , 5. esteem HER OR HER BODY or admire HER OR HER BODY.... If you do not approve of what they do, say or practice it would appear that you are not approving them. NOT NECESSARILY SO. YOU CAN STILL ADMIRE SOMEONE AND DESPISE WHAT THEY DO. If you have to cover them up before you can approve of them, then you don¹t approve of them showing their nakedness. If you withhold your approval until they are appropriately covered, then you don¹t appprove of them uncovering and showing themselves. BUT THE POINT IS, WHETHER THEY ARE COVERED OR NOT, ARE THEY PEOPLE WHO DO SUCH SIN? IF THEY ARE SUCH PEOPLE WHO DO SUCH SIN, THEN YOU MUST NOt approve of them [INCLUDING THEIR BODIES, applaud them OR THEIR BODIES, have or express a favorable opinion of them OR THEIR BODIES, accept them OR THEIR BODIES as satisfactory, give sanction to them OR THEIR BODIES, esteem them or THEIR BODIES, OR admire them OR THEIR BODIES. EVEN IF YOU COVER THEIR FACES/GENITALS IT IS STILL THEM WHO YOU MUST NOT ACCEPT, ESTEEM, ADMIRE OR ENJOY.. DOES THAT MEAN ESTEEMING OR ADMIRING THEIR BEAUTY? Remember the Word about lusting after their beauty? ³If I cover their faces it is no longer their beauty, but just a beautiful body belonging to who knows who?² YOU KNEW THAT IT WAS A WOMAN WHO WAS DOING SIN AND EVEN AFTER YOU COVER HER FACE AND GENITALS YOU STILL KNOW THAT IT WAS A WOMAN DOING SIN BY SHOWING HER GENITALS/SIN. *IF YOU KNOW/KNEW SHE IS/WAS A FORNICATOR/ADULTERESS /HARLOT, *IF YOU KNOW/KNEW SHE BARES/D HER GENITALS PUBLICLY, THEN YOU MUST NOT 1.approve of HER OR HER BODY OR desire to do sin with her 2.express a favorable opinion of HER OR HER BODY , 3. accept HER OR HER BODY as satisfactory, 4. give sanction to HER OR HER BODY , 5. esteem HER OR HER BODY or admire HER OR HER BODY.... WHETHER OR NOT SHE IS BARE OR SEX SINNING IN THE PICTURE AT HAND. IF YOU KNOW SHE DOES THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS ENJOYING, DELIGHTING IN, ESTEEMING OR ADMIRING HER OR desiring to do sinful things with HER BEAUTY, ???????BECAUSE HER BEAUTY IS A PART OF HER JUST LIKE HER FACE IS HER OR FINGERPRINTS ARE HER?????????? GET RID OF HER PICTURES SO YOU WONT BE TEMPTED TO ENJOY, DELIGHT IN, ESTEEM OR ADMIRE HER IN HER BEAUTY WHICH SHE USES TO SIN AND GET YOU INTO SIN. Psalm 101:3 I will set no wicked/worthless thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me. (Phil. 4:8) IT¹S NOT A QUESTION OF WHAT SHE IS DOING AT THE MOMENT. IT¹S A QUESTION OF WHAT KIND OF WOMAN IS SHE AND WHAT KIND OF THINGS DOES SHE DO, WHETHER OR NOT SHE IS DOING IT NOW OR IN THE PICTURE. If you don¹t approve of the showing their genitals , then you are not approving of WHAT THEY ARE DOING. YOU CAN STILL ADMIRE SOMEONE AND DESPISE WHAT THEY DO. GOD MAKE IT PLAIN IT IS SINFUL ERROR TO ADMIRE,ESTEEM APPROVE OF PEOPLE WHO DO SIN. YOU CAN PRAY FOR THEM AND COMPASSIONATELY CHERISH THEM WITHOUT ESTEEMING ADMIRING, ENJOYING THEM. YOU CAN ADMIRE, ESTEEM AND ENJOY THE GOOD THING SINNERS DO, BUT YOU CANNOT ADMIRE, ESTEEM AND ENJOY THE SINNING SINNER. ***Prov. 5:8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house: ***Prov. 5:20 And why shouldest thou, my son, be enraptured with an immoral woman, and embrace the bosom of a seductress? ***Prov. 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thy heart, neither let her take thee with her eyelids;Matt. 5:32 ***Prov. 6:32 Whoso committeth adultery with a woman is void of understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul. €€€ROM. 1:32 who knowing the righteous judgment of God, that they who do such things are worthy of death, not only practice them, but have fellow delight in those who do [them]. € ROM. 1:32 WHO KNOWING THE JUDGMENT OF GOD , THAT THEY WHICH COMMIT SUCH THINGS ARE WORTHY OF DEATH , NOT ONLY DO <4160> THE SAME ---- "do" =STRONGS:<4160> poieo {poy-eh'-o} [IF IT IS IN :"[*.......*]", THEN IT IS TYLER'S] 1a) produce [*such sins*] , construct [*such sinful pictures*] ,form [*such sinful objects*], fashion [*such sin*] 1b) . [are] the authors of [*such sin*], [are] the cause [of] [*such sin*]; 1c). make ready [*such sin*],... prepare[*such sin*] 1i). make one [*do such sin*].. .1i1) cause one to... [*do such sin*].. 2b) ... do ...[*such sin*].. ... unto one, 1e)... acquire [* such sin*]..,... provide ..[*such sin*] for one's self, 1j) .[are] the authors of [*such sin*] ...(... cause, bring about [*such sin*] ) 2a1) ... carry out [*such sin*] , ... execute [*such sin*] .. 2d) . celebrate [*such sin*] , keep [*such sin*] .. 2d1) ... make ready [*such sin*] . , 2e) .. perform: to a promise [*such sin*] ...[as under contract] , € BUT HAVE PLEASURE IN <4909> ------------- STRONG'S <4909> suneudokeo {soon-yoo-dok-eh'-o} 1) to be pleased together with, to approve together (with others) 2) *to be pleased at the same time with, consent, agree to 2a) to applaud* In Ronese: to like, permit, agree to, to praise/celebrate and encourage <4909> Tense - Present; Voice - Active; Mood - Indicative *=Arndt & Gingrich and Thayer all agree with this def. have pleasure in are pleased together with approve together with are pleased at the same time with consent/agree with applaud [praise/celebrate/encourage] € THOSE WHO DO [THEM]. them who exercise them them who practise them them who are busy with them them who carry them on them who undertake them them who do them them who accomplish them themwho perform them them who commit them them who perpetrate them them who manage them publicly them who transact them publicly them who exact revenue from them them who act them "Abstain from every form of evil" 1 Thes. 5:21 "Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: 'TheLord knows those who are His,' and, 'Everyone who names the name of Christ should depart from iniquity.' . . . in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, set apart and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. Flee also youthful desires [for that which is forbidden by God]; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." 2Tim.2:19-22 €€€CONCUBINES IN THE BIBLE Are concubinage amd polygyny dead and old issues? In January of '96 the New York Times ran an article about more than 200,000 polygamists living in and around Paris, France, alone. An e-mail correspondent from Paris wrote to me telling me that reportedly a very recent Prime Minister of France was a practicing polygynist, that both his wife and concubine participated in his public state funeral. Polygamy and concubinage, in one form or another, are being practiced on every continent today. St. Augustine of Hippo, 4th century Christian Patriarch, stated the following of the Western Christian community of his century: "But here there is no ground for a criminal accusation: for a plurality of wives was no crime when it was the custom; and it is a crime now, because it is no longer the custom......The only reason of its being a crime now to do this, is because custom and the laws forbid it.>1. . . . That the holy fathers of olden times . . . to whom God gave His testimony that 'they pleased Him'. . . it was permitted to . . . them to have a pluraltiy of wives. . .>2 . . . the honorable name of saint is given not without reason to men who had several wives. . . nor did the number of their wives make the patriarchs licentious.>3 [>1 A Select Library, vol. iv; p. 289; >2 A Select Library, Vol. V; p. 267; >3 A Select Library, Vol. iv; p. 290] I understand Rev. Gerhard Jasper to make the following points: (1) In Old Testament times a Jewish polygynist's marriage was fully recognized as marriage, protected by the Law and the elders; (2) the Jewish polygynist's faith in or faithfulness to God was not questioned because of his polygyny; (3) the polygyny of the Jewish polygynist did not keep him from being admitted to the congregation with full membership.>44. Moses did not forbid polygamy but apparently it was unusual among average people .>45. " . . . Yet polygyny is adopted from the time of Lamech (Gn. 4:19), and is not forbidden in Scripture . . . Polygamy continues to the present day among Jews in Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist, Asian, Oriental, and African countries." >25 ³Concubine. A secondary wife acquired by purchase or as a war captive, and allowed in polygamous society such as existed in the Middle east in biblical times. . . . Concubines were protected under Mosaic law (Exod. 21:7-11; Dt. 21:10-14), though they were distinguished from wives (Jdg. 8:31) and were more easily divorced (Gen.21:10-14)²>26 " . . . Concubinage was a legally sanctioned and socially acceptable practice in ancient cultures, including that of the Hebrews; concubines, however, were denied the protection to which a legal wife was entitled. . .²>27. " . . . Herod had nine wives at once. . . Its possibility is implied by the technical continuance of the Levirate law," [Deut. 25:5-10] "and is proved by the early interpretation of 1 Ti 3, whether correct or not. Justin reproaches the Jews of his day" [A.D.] " with having 'four or even five wives,' and marrying 'as they wish, or as many as they wish.' . . . Polygamy was not definitely forbidden among the Jews till the time of R. Gershom (c. A.D. 1000), and then at first only for France and Germany. In Spain, Italy, and the East it persisted for some time longer, as it does still among the Jews in Mohammedan countries.">28 [Footnotes: >44. Trobisch, MY WIFE MADE ME. . . P.18; (AFRICAN THEOLOGICAL JOURNAL, Rev. Gerhard Jasper of Lutheran Theological College in Makumira, Tanzania; Februrary 1969, p. 41). >45. Please see Deut. 21:15,16 and THE INTERNATIONAL BIBLE COMMENTARY; p. 407. >25 IVCF, Editor J.D.Douglas; 1962,W. B. Eerdmans Publishing, p.787. >26 IVCF, Editor J.D.Douglas; 1962,W. B. Eerdmans Publishing. >27 1986, Funk & Wagnalls NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA. >28. HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE; p.583ff.]] Reflecting the reality of how Israel and Judah divided after Solomon died, Jesus (as Jehovah) presents Himself as the husband of two wives in the following: MKJV EZEKIEL 23: 1 ¶ The word of the LORD came again to me, 2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother. 3 And they fornicated in Egypt; they whored in their youth, their breasts were handled, and there their Oholibah, her sister. And they became Mine, . . . ." God never presents Himself as sin or sinner to us except for when holy Christ became sin for us on the cross. In Ezek. 23, the sinners were His wives and He was righteous as the husband of two wives. It was only two wives in accordance with His own Law that decreed that the ruler must not multiply wives to himself. Polygyny , even God¹s polygyny , is NEVER labeled or declared to be sin or sinful in the Bible. MKJV GEN. 4: 19 ¶ And Lamech took two wives to himself. The name of the first one [was] Adah, and the name of the other [was] Zillah; MKJV GEN. 16: 2 And Sarai said to Abram, Behold now, the LORD has kept me from bearing. I pray you, go in to my slave woman. It may be that I may be built by her. And Abram listened to the voice of Sarai. 3 And Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar her slave woman, the Egyptian, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. God intervened and sent Hagar back into the marital situation with Abram and Sarai>41 When God next spoke to Abraham>42 there was no condemnation of his polygyny , but instead God blessed him with an even greater blessing than before. In response to the blessing he takes his son by Hagar and circumcised him>43 . "in all things the Lord had blessed Abraham" (Gen. 24:1). [Footnotes:>41 (Gen 16:9-16.); >42 (Gen. 17:1--); >43 (Gen. 17:23- 25); Polygyny and bigamy were recognized features of the family life. From the Oriental point of view there was nothing immoral in the practice of polygamy. . . . At all events, polygyny was an established and recognized institution form the earliest times">8 HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE; p.259. God blessed Sarah with fertility in polygyny>44 and God blessed Hagar and Ishmael even though she was cast out of Sarah's house at Sarah's confirmed request because of the question of an heir, not polygyny>45 . Abraham had another concubine after Hagar, named Keturah>46 by whom Abraham had six children without any condemnation or denunciation by God. [Footnotes:>44 (Gen 21:1-7); >45 (Gen. 21); >46 (1 Chron.1:32) ] Culturally it is interesting that Nahor, Abraham's brother, also was a polygamist having a concubine>47. Abraham had at least another concubine besides Keturah under God's blessing>48 although he diligently protected the heir status of Isaac. Hezron¹s Caleb had two concubines>49. [Footnotes:>47 (Gen. 22:20-24); >48 (Gen. 25:1-6); >48 (Gen. 25:1- 6)] Eerdmans' Douglas' New Bible Dictionary: ³Concubine. A secondary wife . . . . allowed in polygamous society such as existed in the Middle east in biblical times....Handmaidens, given as a marriage gift, were often concubines (Gen. 29:24,29). Concubines were protected under Mosaic law (Exod. 21:7-11; Dt. 21:10-14), though they were distinguished from wives (Jdg. 8:31) and were more easily divorced (Gen.21:10-14)." [Footnote: >10 1962, IVCF, Editor J.D.Douglas; W. B. Eerdmans Publishing] FUNK & WAGNALLS NEW ENCYCLOPEDIA: CONCUBINAGE, ³refers to the cohabitation of a man and a woman without sanction of legal marriage. Specifically, concubinage is a form of polygyny in which the primary matrimonial relationship is supplemented by one or more secondary sexual relationships. Concubinage was a legally sanctioned and socially acceptable practice in ancient cultures, including that of the Hebrews; concubines, however, were denied the protection to which a legal wife was entitled. . . . . the concubine's status was inferior to that of a legal wife. Her children had certain rights, including support by the father and legitimacy in the event of the marriage of the parents² [>11 1986, Funk & Wagnalls] HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE: ³The relative positions of wives and concubines were determined mainly by the husband's favour. The children of the wife claimed the greater part, or the whole, of the inheritance; otherwise there does not seem to have been any inferiority in the position of the concubine as compared with that of the wife, nor was any idea of illegitimacy, in our sense of the word, connected with her children. . . . >12 [Footnote: >12. HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE; p.259.] ³ The difference between a wife and a concubine depended on the wife's higher position and birth, usually backed by relatives ready to defend her.² >13 [Footnote: >13. 1989, HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE; p.585.] >>>>THE BIBLICAL RECORD CONTINUES Esau's polygyny >55 was not condemned but his unequal yoke was the point of grief to his mother. Esau¹s son had a concubine>56 . [Footnotes:>55 (Gen. 26:34,35; 28:9); >56 (Gen. 36:12); ] Jacob marries Rachel and Leah>58 , and goes on to have children by his concubines as well>59. Sure, treachery was involved in the Rachel and Leah marriage, but it appears that the treachery stands alone as the evil since at the first mention of the polygyny option,>60 Jacob has no moral objection and nowhere does God denounce his marriage to the two women. Yes Lev. 18:18 shows that much later in the time of Moses, God forbade two sisters being wives to one husband at one time and makes rivalry the issue. God deliberately involved Himself in the polygyny of Jacob by blessing Leah with fertility>61. God repeated himself by blessing the mother of Samuel with fertility without denouncing her polygyny>62 . God intervened and granted fertility to Rachel in her polygyny>63 . God not only blesses Jacob with fertility but also with miraculous prosperity in his polygyny> 64 . God not only blessed Jacob in his polygyny but also delivered him from evil and harm as a polygynist>65 [Footnotes:>58 in Gen 29 & 30; >59 (Gen. 35:22; 37:2);. >60 (Gn. 29:27,29). >61 (Gn. 29:31,32; 30:17); >62 (l Sam 1:1-6); >63 (Gn. 30:22); >64 (Gn. 30:41-31:10); >65 (Gn. 31:24, 29,42)] Jacob¹s son Ashur had two wives >68, and his son, Manasseh, had a concubine>69. Benjamin¹s Shaharaim was also a polygamist>70. [Footnotes:>68 (1Chron. 4:5); >69 (1 Chron 7:14); >70 (1 Chron.8:8)] The next occurrence is controversial but interesting. Before the Law and in accordance with the principles of Genesis, Moses interracially marries Zipporah a Midianite. She seems to do a Michal>71 and apparently suffers the same fate because next we see Moses interracially marry, after the giving of the law, an Ethiopian Cushite>72 in polygyny . Under God's Law Moses gave instructions about polygyny>73 affording it the full legal status of monogamy with no stigma or denunciation. [Footnotes:>71 (l Sam 6) in Ex. 4:23-26; >72 (Num 12:1-10); >73 in Ex. 21:10,11] MKJV EXODUS 21: 7 ³And if a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no power to sell her to a strange nation, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. 9 And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her as with daughters. 10 If he takes himself another [wife], her food, her clothing, and her duty of marriage shall not be lessened. 11 And if he does not do these three to her, then she shall go out free without money.² MKJV LEVITICUS 19:20 ³And whoever lies with a woman with semen, and she is a slave-girl, betrothed to a husband and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her, there shall be an inquest. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free.² MKJV DEUT. 22: 23 ³If a girl [who is] a virgin is engaged to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them with stones that they die; the girl because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he has humbled his neighbor's wife. So you shall put away evil from among you. 25 But if a man finds an engaged girl in the field, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man that lay with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the girl. No sin [worthy] of death [is] in the girl; for as when a man rises against his neighbor and slays him, even so is this matter. 27 For he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but [there was] none to save her.² God's Law forbade a king from "multiplying" wives>.75 to himself without making such a command to we nonkings. It appears from later scripture about Godly and God blessed kings of Israel that God makes a distinction between MULTIPLYING wives & horses to yourself and adding wives & horses to yourself. None of us object to King David having more than one horse but many object to King David having more than one wife, yet it is the same command "he shall not multilply horses . . . wives to himself." By 2 Samuel 5-12 God had ³given² him seven wives plus a number of concubines. We see His implied blessing on David¹s polygyny . This implied blessing of his polygyny would have to mean that David, with concubines and seven wives, had not yet violated the prohibition against a king multiplying wives and horses to himself. [Footnotes:>75 De 17:15 ³You shall only set him king over you whom Jehovah your God will choose: from among your brethren shall you set a king over you; . . . 16 Only he shall not multiply horses to himself, . . . 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away; neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.² NO PROHIBITION FROM HAVING SOME HORSES , SOME WIVES and some gold] In Deut. 21:15-17 God intervenes and acknowledges and vindicates the second wife in a polygamous marriage where the sin of partiality >76 was being practiced. If polygyny were sin why didn't God condemn it in this passage instead of covering it with the dignity and holiness of His Law? The wife is vindicated, not condemned. [Footnote: >76 (James 2:1-7)] Deut. 21:15 ¶ ³If a man have two wives, one beloved, and one hated, and they have borne him children, [both] the beloved and the hated, and [if] the first-born son be hers that was hated; 16 then it shall be, in the day that he makes his sons to inherit [that] which he has, [that] he may not make the son of the beloved first-born before the son of the hated, who is the first-born; 17 but he shall acknowledge as first-born the son of the hated, by giving him a double portion of all that he has; for he is the firstfruits of his strength: the right of the firstborn is his.² Gideon had MANY WIVES, was blessed and used of God without any condemnation/denunciation from God about his polygyny>77 .[Footnotes:>77 (Judges 8:29-32) ] What about the Levite¹s? These keepers of the tabernacle, did they have special rules that kept them from polygyny? Not according to the following, because when his concubine was mercilessly murdered by rape, the nation of Israel rose to vindicate him and avenge her murder. Judges 19:1 ¶ ³And it came to pass in those days, when [there was] no king in Israel, that there was a certain Levite, . . . who took to him a concubine out of Bethlehem-Judah. 2 And his concubine . . . . went away from him to her father's house to Bethlehem-Judah, and was there four whole months. 3 And HER HUSBAND rose up and went after her, to speak friendly to her, [and] to bring her again; . . . And she brought him into her father's house; and when the father of the damsel saw him he rejoiced to meet him. 4 And his FATHER-IN- LAW, the damsel's father, retained him, and he abode with him three days; . . .5 . . . And the damsel's father said to his SON-IN-LAW, . .² SO A CONCUBINE IS NOT A HARLOT. Just like any other wife, she can become a harlot while married (Ezek. 16 and Hosea). HARLOTRY IS AN EVIL THAT EITHER A WIFE OR A CONCUBINE CAN PRACTICE WHILE MARRIED. Not only is a concubine not a harlot, the Holy Spirit by the writer of the book of Judges declared the Levite to be the concubine's "husband", declared the father of the concubine to be the Levite's "father-in-law", and declared the Levite to be the "son-in-law" of the concubine's father. This is a very strong legitimization of the husband-concubine marital status. It is the same legitimization of the relationship that the Holy Spirit used in Matthew 1, calling the espoused Mary "wife" and the espoused Joseph "husband". If God so recognizes them and describes them, then who are we to do any less. By the Holy Spirit here in Judges 19 we see that a concubine had a "husband" who was the "son-in-law" of her father, his "father-in-law". A wife has a "husband" who is the "son- in-law" of her father, her husband's "father-in-law". David is a fascinating case. He marries Michal in l Sam. 18. Then, as the anointed future king of Israel, David took to himself three additional wives in l Sam 25, and one is recognized by the Spirit for her grace and wisdom. He does this at a time of God's miraculous intervention and blessing in his life. God neither denounces or condemns him or his polygyny. In the case of three or four wives you are still dealing with addition, rather than the multiplying of Deut. It is interesting that horses, silver and gold - AS WELL AS WIVES - were not to be multiplied. I can't believe this was meant to limit the king to ONE HORSE, or ONE SILVER OR GOLD BAR, even so I can't believe it limits a king to one wife. In fact in 2 Sam 6, it is Michal who is condemned and punished instead of her polygamous husband David. By the time he becomes King in Judah he has 6 wives>83 and is being blessed and prospered by God. At the time of the wonderful Covenant with David in 2 Sam. 7, God specifically blesses and covenants with polygamist David and his concubines and his seven wives, as part of his house, receive a blessing. God even said "I gave you . . . your master's wives" >84 ". ["And Nathan said to David, you are the man! Thus says Jehovah the God of Israel: I anointed you king over Israel, and I delivered you out of the hand of Saul; 8 and I GAVE YOU YOUR MASTER'S HOUSE, AND YOUR MASTER'S WIVES INTO YOUR BOSOM, and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah; and if [that] had been too little, I would moreover have given unto you such and such things." Footnotes:>83 (2 Sam. 3); >84a 2Sa 12:7] At this time God had ³given² him seven wives plus a number of concubines (1 Chronicles 3). God here condemns David¹s adultery and murder, but implies His blessing on David¹s polygyny . This implied blessing of his polygyny would have to mean that David, with concubines and seven wives, had not yet violated the prohibition against a king multiplying wives to himself. >84b to David in his polygyny. Apparently even concubines plus seven wives is not "multiplying" wives to oneself. He had about 14 wives and concubines at the end of his life>85. David the polygamist was declared to be loyal to God>86. God declares that David, the polygamist, fully followed God>87. [Footnotes:>84b 2Sa 12:7; >85 (1 Chron 3); >86 ( l King 11:4); >87 (l King 11:6)] Both David and Abraham recognized all the rights and responsibilities of the concubines as if they were official wives. The bottom line is what does God say and how does He view concubines. Reflect on the following: MKJV 2 Sam.12: 11 ³So says the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house, and I will take your wives before your eyes and give [them] to your neighbor. And he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun.² MKJV 2 Sam 16: 21 ³And Ahithophel said to Absalom, Go in to your father's concubines, that he left to keep the house. And all Israel shall hear that you are abhorred by your father. And the hands of all who [are] with you will be strong. 22 And they spread Absalom a tent on the top of the house, and Absalom went in to his father's concubines in the sight of all Israel.² MKJV2Sam.20:3 ³And David came to his house at Jerusalem. And the king took the ten women, [his] concubines, whom he had left to keep the house, and put them in ward, and fed them but did not go in to them. And they were shut up till the day of their death, living in widowhood.² In these passages you see God calling and recognizing as "wives" David¹s concubines. If that is the way God sees them, only a fool would treat them as less than a wife (Malachi 2). Malachi 2 makes it pretty clear how God feels about those who break their covenants with their concubines and wives. Solomon's polygyny was sinful first because He disobeyed God¹s command against a king multiplying wives to himself>89; and secondly because he married unbelievers with whom God had specifically forbidden marriage>90. Too many wives and forbidden wives both had the same predicted result, that they turned his heart away from God. Solomon was declared to be disloyal to God in his polygyny>91 while David the polygamist was declared to be loyal to God>92 . God even declares that polygynist David fully followed God>93 . [Footnote: >89 (Deut. 17:15-17); >90 (Nehemiah 13:23) ; >91 (1 Kings 11:1,2,6, 11); >92 ( l King 11:4); >93 (l King 11:6)] Evil king Rehoboam imitated Solomon and almost had 18 wives and 60 concubines in 2 Chron. 11 & 12. Then Godly king Abijah, blessed and prospered of God, also had fourteen wives>94 . The Godly High Priest Jehoida gave two wives to godly king Joash in 2 Chron 24. Godly queen Esther was a wife blessed by God in her polygyny . God Himself describes Himself as a polygamist in Ezekiel 23. Jesus reaffirmed the Old Testament teachings on polygamy and concubinage in Matt. 23:2,3. [Footnote: >94 (2 Chron. 13)] MKJV MATT. 23:2 ³. . . The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, observe and do. But do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.² What a record! Two authors of the Old Testament, David and Solomon, possibly three if you count Moses, were uncondemned and God-honored polygynists in their polygyny. Four godly patriarchs with whom God entered into special and unique covenants (Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon; five if you count Moses) were polygynists at the time God covenanted with them. In every era of the Old Testament (Pre Law, Sinai Law, Judges, Kingdom prophets, Dispersion prophets) you find God¹s people and leaders practicing polygyny and practicing it according to God¹s will or commands. Yet many Christian leaders agree with the brother that apparently maintains that the Bible offers little defense for polygamy in comparison to monogamy, that because of its shortcomings polygyny cannot be tolerated as a form of marriage willed by God.>22. Perhaps that's why God chose the polygamous marriage of Solomon and his Shulamite in The Song of Solomon to be the model for marriage in Israel and the marriage model for His relationship to Israel>95. [Footnotes:>22. Trobisch; MY WIFE MADE ME..P.21; >95 (Ezekiel 23)] St. Augustine, 4th century AD of Hippo, has a good word, as follows: " . . If our critics, then, wish to attain not a spurious and affected, but a genuine and sound moral health, let them find a cure in believing the Scripture record, that the honorable name of saint is given not without reason to men who had several wives; . . .nor did the number of their wives make the patriarchs licentious. But why defend the husbands, to whose character the divine word bears the highest testimony. . . ." [Footnote: >.23 A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of The Christian Church, Vol. iv; p.290] AND JESUS SAID: Mat. 5:17 ¶ ³Think not that I am come to make void the law or the prophets; I am not come to make void, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, one iota or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all come to pass. 19 Whosoever then shall do away with one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of the heavens; but whosoever shall practise and teach [them], *he* shall be called great in the kingdom of the heavens.² Matt. 23:1 ¶ ³Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 saying, The scribes and the Pharisees have set themselves down in Moses' seat: 3 all things therefore, whatever they may tell you, do and keep. But do not after their works, for they say and do not, . . .² So even after Acts' Pentecost and Acts 15 the apostles and believing Jews in Acts 21 still believed that they were to obey the Law of Moses including the laws about marriage (including polygyny ) and morality. The only thing they wrote about polygyny was that the elders/bishops /deacons should have only one wife at a time (1 Tim. 3; Titus 1). So we see Paul in Acts 21, the Apostle of Grace to we non-Jews, purify himself as a law-keeping Jew with four other Christian Jews under a vow, pay the expenses of their being under the vow including the shaving of their heads, and have an offering offered for them all so that he could show the believing Jews that he walked orderly, keeping the Sinai Law and its customs and telling the believing Jews to circumcize their children and walk in Moses' customs. These customs of Moses included the laws given to Moses regulating and recognizing polygyny. So the apostles and believing Jews were still keeping the Law, not for salvation, but to obey Jesus in Mat. 23:1-3, and still they do not condemn or reject the polygyny being practiced all around them by both Jews and Romans (See the quotes below). This means that the marriage and morality teachings of 1 Thess. 4 ; Romans 7; 1 Corinthians 5, 6 and 7 were written before the time of Acts 21:16 while Paul and the believing Jews, including the apostles, were still obeying and teaching the marriage and morality laws of the Law of Moses, discussed at length above including polygyny . The change of significance was not that polygyny was condemned or forbidden but that monogamy was made a prerequisite for holding an official position of leadership in the local church. The polygyny of the Jewish, Greek and Roman world was not attacked, but the leadership of the local churches was transformed by the monogamy restriction, probably to prevent polygamous leaders from getting involved in church service that would result in the neglect of time with their own children and/or wives. What was the actual status of polygamy in New Testament time, the First Century AD? Christian elders agree that during Jesus' physical and visible walk on earth, the Jews practiced polygamy>24.² [Footnote: >24. Trobisch; MY WIFE MADE ME..P. 23. ; "Polygamy was not definitely forbidden among the Jews till the time of R. Gershom (c. A.d. 1000), and then at first only for France and Germany. In Spain, Italy,m and the East it persisted for some time longer, as it does still among the Jews in Mohammedan counties". HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE, p.584. ; A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of The Christian Church, Vol. V, p. 267.; A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of The Christian Church, Vol. iv, p.290.; A Select Library of the Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers of The Christian Church, Vol. VIII, p. 258. ; St. Augustin: On The Trinity, p. 402.; HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE, p.259, 583ff.] It is incredible to think that Jesus and the apostles would say nothing about such a widespread contemporary practice as polygyny if it were indeed sinful, less than God's best, carnal and reprobate to good works. God never said such a thing in Old Testament times and He obviously never said such a thing in New Testament times. When you consider how specific God was in Lev. chaps. 18-22; Deut. chaps. 22- 24; Romans 1; 1 Cor. 6; 2 Cor. 6; Gal. 5 and etc., I can not believe that God would "forget" to include polygyny if it is as bad as most Christian leaders say it is. "Yet polygyny is adopted from the time of Lamech (Gn. 4:19), and is not forbidden in Scripture . . .. Polygamy continues to the present day among Jews in Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist, Asian, Oriental, and African countries." [>25 IVCF, Editor J.D.Douglas; 1962,W. B. Eerdmans Publishing, p.787] "Polygamy was not definitely forbidden among the Jews till the time of R. Gershom (c. A.D. 1000), and then at first only for France and Germany. In Spain, Italy, and the East it persisted for some time longer, as it does still among the Jews in Mohammedan countries." [Footnote: >28. HASTINGS DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE; p.583ff.] PLEASE ADVISE ME OF ANY AND ALL ERRORS (TYPOS, DOCTRINAL, ETC.) THAT YOU FIND. PLEASE GIVE ME CLEAR AND EXPLICIT SCRIPTURES DEALING WITH THE ERROR WHEN YOU WRITE. I WANT THE WORD, NOT OPINIONS AND PARADIGMS. For your consideration, controversial and thought provoking files by a social activist and reformer on current subjects and issues from an Anthropological and Judeo-Christian perspective. If you are happy with our world's status quo and not interested in the files listed below in Part 1, then please read no further. If you are not happy with our world's status quo and are open to change based on the Judeo-Christian scriptures, you might have some interest in, or use of, these files. I believe that your input would be helpful and interesting. Please feel free to share any helpful, useful and/or edifying information. I agree with God (1 Cor. 8:2,3) and freely acknowledge that I do not know the subjects below as I ought to know them, so I am open to knowing them even better if possible. Thanks These cross cultural files by a cultural anthropologist are an attempt to deal with real and contemporary life-issues within a Judeo-Christian context, no matter what the reader's marital status, culture, status, race or nationality might be. The only "culture" advocated and endorsed is the Judeo- Christian "culture", no love here for the status quo. The ultimate authority accepted here is the God-breathed Word of God as found in the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible. PART ONE: FILE TITLES, DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE € Abortion, Malicious Bias, & Genocide (abortion.txt) € Angels, Demons & Spirits (AngelsDemonsSpirits.txt; YouAndAngels) € Biblical Insights on Sex, Morality & Pornography (BiblcaLSexPornMorality) € Black Families' Crisis (PlightOfBlkFem-Fam.txt; BlackFamResrcs+.txt; Black.Family.Resrcs) € Camelot, a Tale of Tragic Love ( A_Camelot_Dedication.txt) € Cherishing Your Women (CherishYourWomen1.txt) € Christian Divorce (Divorce_&_Polygamy.html) € Christians and the Tithe ( ChristianTithe.txt ) € Common Law & Informal Marriages (ComnlawInfrmlMarriage.txt) € Crisis Resolution in the Unity of the Spirit (CrisisResolution.txt) € Disciples and Their Suffering (Why_Disciples_Suffer.txt; WhyBelieversSuffer.html) € Divorce & Remarriage (Divorce_Remarriage.txt; Divorce_&_Polygamy.html; Christian_Divorce.txt; Christian_Divorce) € Easter Insights (Easter_Insights.txt; Easter_Insights) € How and When to Marry (WhenHowMarry.txt) € How to Survive Divorce (HowSurvive_Divorce.txt) € Husband Wife Relations (HusbandWifeRelatnsMngny.txt; Husband.Wife.Relatns) € Husbands Rule Wives? 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Have you believed/trusted/relied/depended on the Lord/King Jesus Christ ---the God anointed Saviour King of Israel ----to save you from your faults, failures and mistakes? Salvation from personal faults/failures/mistakes belongs to the poor in spirit. Matt. 5:3 says, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." If you recognize that you are spiritually destitute---totally incapable of deserving or earning salvation from your errors in any way, you are poor in spirit-- you are humble. The poor in spirit, the humble, understand that they are sinners, totally impotent to please or to serve God. To acknowledge that you are a sinner unable to save yourself is humility. Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners (1 Tim. 1:15). Isaiah said, "When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see [His] seed. He shall prolong [His] days and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the distressing travail of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities." Poverty of spirit (humility) is interwoven in the act of repentance, the life-altering change of mind about you, your sin and God. When you repent (change your mind), you see yourself as you really are and you change your mind in respect to your relationship to God the Father and to His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. The act of repentance brings you to see your sin as ugly as it is, as God sees it, and you come to a point where you want to be free from it. Of course, freedom from sin comes only by believing/trusting/ relying on the Lord Jesus Christ. The one who is regularly committing sin is the slave of sin. However, if the Son shall set you free from regularly committing sin, you shall be free indeed (John 8:334,36) The poor in spirit see their impotence to free themselves from sin/failures/faults/errors. They see that freedom is possible only through Christ's death for us as our substitute. They recognize that salvation/deliverance comes by God's act of undeserved and unmeritted kindness and mercy alone. They choose to believe God and His Word about themselves and their relationship with Him. One cannot speak of the Crucifixion apart from the Resurrection. It is the resurrection that gives us newness of life. Christ's resurrection testifies to two vital truths. One, it shows that God was propitiated, or satisfied, with the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ. Jesus became the bearer of our sins. Isaiah's word is "But he was wounded/pierced for our transgressions, bruised/crushed for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes (from the cutting whips) we are healed." In Romans 4:25 we read, "[He] who was delivered up because of our transgressions, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification." "Raised because of our justifica- tion" means that because Jesus' payment (the death of His body) for our sins was adequate to satisfy the demands of justice and a Holy God, God could then declare us righteous, justified and made acceptable in His sight. Jesus was raised from death because His death for us satisfied the righteousness of our Holy God. His resurrection shows us that Jesus Christ conquered death. Death had a holdover man because of his sin/error/failures/faults. However, once the death penalty of sin was paid for by the death of Christ's body, death no longer had any holding power. "The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law" (1 Corinth. 15:56). Jesus paid the price of redemption, redeeming us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us ---for cursed was everyone who was hung on a tree/stake (Deut. 21:23; Gala. 3:13). His death took away the power of sin. Jesus also took the stinger out of death by paying for our sin so that we need have no fear of what awaits us in and after death. Because our sin debt is paid for in full by Christ, death has no power over us. Dear reader, have you come to the end of yourself? Have you seen your total impotence, your total unworthiness? Have you seen your nothingness apart from God? And have you seen Jesus, God the Son who took upon Himself flesh and blood that He might die for you and for all people? Have you decided that you want His Way and Will in and for your life instead of your own will and way? Do you believe that? Do you believe He died in your place? Do you believe that He was made sin for you, so that you, a helpless and hopeless enemy of God, might have His righteousness and His life? Have you repented---turned away from self-will to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ----the God anointed Saviour King of Israel? Out loud with your mouth agree with God about the God anointed Saviour King of Israel, and you will be saved, "for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses [Jesus], resulting in salvation." Romans 10:10-13. Joel 2: 32 And it shall be, whoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be saved; for salvation shall be in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, as the LORD has said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. Ps 119:6 Then I shall not be ashamed, when I have respect to all Your commandments. Ps 119:80 Let my heart be sound in Your statutes, so that I may not be ashamed. Ps 119:116 Uphold me according to Your word, that I may live; and let me not be ashamed of my hope. This invitation for you to become a child of God through Jesus Christ is paraphrased from Kay Arthur's "Lord Heal My Hurts". 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Tyler, P.O.Box 620763, San Diego, CA 92162-0763 PLEASE BOYCOTT PRODUCTS MADE IN CHINA BECAUSE (1) THEY SYSTEMATICALLY TORTURE AND KILL BORN-AGAIN BELIEVERS IN CHRIST FOR THEIR FAITH, (2) THEY SYSTEMATICALLY EXECUTE PRISONERS FOR NON CAPTIAL CRIMES TO HARVEST THEIR BODY ORGANS FOR SALE ABROAD, (3) THEY FORCE MOTHERS/FAMILIES TO ABORT ALL OF THEIR UNBORN INFANTS EXCEPT FOR ONE PER FAMILY, AND FEMALE UNBORN INFANTS ARE THE MOST COMMON VICTIMS. The Chinese Communists have killed more Christians in fifty years than the Romans killed in the first four hundred years of the Church age (Marshall's book of modern martyrs, "Their Blood Cries Out" ). PLEASE BOYCOTT PRODUCTS MADE IN SUDAN, ESPECIALLY BY NOT BUYING SOFT DRINKS AND JUICE DRINKS THAT CONTAIN ESTER GUM ROSIN OR ESTER OF WOOD ROSIN, BECAUSE THEY ARE SYSTEMATICALLY TORTURING, RAPING, ENSLAVING AND KILLING SUDANESE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH. What am I talking about? In Marshall's book of modern martyrs, "Their Blood Cries Out" consider this incident. Jihad Muslims in their antiChristian fury kidnapped a young Christian girl. As they began to abuse her she began to sweetly sing hymns and pslams as the Spirit worked 1 Peter 4:12-19 in her. As they raped her repeatedly she kept on singing hymns and psalms, apparently unphased by her abusers as Jesus was keeping His 1 Cor. 10:13 promise to her. After hours of physical and sexual abuse, during which she kept on singing psalms and hymns, these radical Jihad Muslims decided they had enough of her and shot her. She kept on singing (the fulfillment of Matt. 10:16- 20, 27-32) as the blood flowed out of the wound. Amazed, they shot her again to silence her. She miraculously kept on singing songs of praise and worship of Jesus as her blood was leaving her body. Troubled and stunned they couldn't believe or uderstand what they were seeing and hearing of her dying, and in a frenzied effort to silence her singing one of these rabidly antiChristian Muslems took a machete and chopped her throat-------and finally she was silent. Bewildered and angry they dumped her body, after Jesus' angels in glory had lovingly ministered to her spirit as she met Jesus and entered into His eternal Love, Peace, Joy and Life. Having died like her Lord, she now lives forever like her Lord. This world was not worthy of such a blessed and wondrous little sister. PLEASE BOYCOTT DISNEY AND DISNEYLAND PRODUCTS AND FACILITIES BECAUSE OF THE ANTICHRISTIAN AND ANTIGOD PRODUCTS, SHOWS AND MOVIES THEY ARE PUTTING OUT NOW. Appendix: Naked vs. Bare Is a woman evil is she is publicly naked, without clothing but using something besides clothing to cover her loins/genitals? Is God's will for such a woman is that she be clothed, that one clothe her, with no connotation of evil? What is God's will for the woman naked in public, but not exposing/baring her genitals/loins? Yes a woman is evil if she is publicly bare, exposing her genitals in public (in pictures or in person). It is His will that we be clothed and not naked. He never says anyone who is naked is evil or sinning. He wants us to cover/clothe the naked. When you have a picture of a naked woman who hasn't bared/isn't baring her genitals, cover her loins/vulva and rump (gluteous maximus) It is considered evil to bare your genitals in public. It is understood to be a punishment from God. It is not a good thing. A woman who bares her vulva is doing an evil thing and is an evil person and must be dealt with as an evil person. It is an evil worthy of death to enjoy or derive pleasure from a woman who bares/exposes her vulva. € ***Gen.3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened <06491> (8735), and they knew that they [were] naked <05903>; [05903 `eyrom {ay-rome'} adj. 1) naked; n. m. 2) nakedness] This appears to be a part of knowing good and evil. Before all they had known was good and good living. Now they also knew evil and evil living. Having entered the era of sin and death, they probably came under conviction by the Holy Spirit to cover their nakedness/loins/genitals Job 1:21 And he said, I came naked out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return there. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away. Blessed [be] the name of the LORD. Job 22:6 For you have taken a pledge from your brother for nothing, and stripped the naked of their clothing. Job 24:7 They lodge the naked without clothing, and [give] no covering in the cold. Job 24:10 They cause [him] to go naked without clothing, and they take away the sheaves from the hungry Ec 5:15 As he came forth from his mother's womb naked, he shall return to go as he came. And from his labor he may not carry anything that may go in his hand. Isa 20:2 at that time the LORD spoke by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and take the sackcloth off your loins, and take your shoe off your foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. Isa 20:4 so shall the king of Assyria lead away Egypt's prisoners, and the Ethiopian exiles, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with uncovered buttocks, [to] the shame of Egypt. Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring to thy house the needy wanderers; when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh? Eze 18:7 and has not ill-treated any man, [but] has given the debtor's pledge back to him, has robbed none by violence, has given his bread to the hungry and has covered the naked with a garment; Mt 25:36 I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me. 1Co 4:11 Even until this present hour we both hunger and thirst and are naked and are buffeted and have no certain dwelling place. Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, € ***and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons <02290> [02290 chagowr {khag-ore'}; 1) girdle, belt 2) girdle, loin-covering, belt, loin-cloth, armour] loin-covering and loin-clothes cover the lower back, thighs and groin (the fold or crease formed at the juncture of the thigh and the abdomen). God didn't tell them to do this. They just did it on their own, as a part of their knew knowledge of evil. As if they knew that because of evil in the world, they needed to cover their genitals when in public. ****Ge 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; Ge 37:34 And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days. Ge 46:26 All the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, which came out of his loins, besides Jacob's sons' wives, all the souls [were] threescore and six; Ex 1:5 And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt [already]. Ex 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; [with] your loins gird 2Ch 6:9 Notwithstanding thou shalt not build the house; but thy son which shall come forth out of thy loins, he shall build the house for my name. DID NOT INCLUDE THE THIGHS Da 5:6 Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another. Ex 28:42 And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach: Jer 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Ac 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; Heb 7:5* And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: NOT COVERING YOUR LOINS MEANS YOU ARE NAKED Isa 20:2 At the same time spake the LORD by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot. € ***Gen. 3: 21 ¶ Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make <06213> (8799) coats <03801> of skins, [03801 k@thoneth {keth-o'-neth} or kuttoneth 1) tunic, under-garment 1a) a long shirt-like garment usually of linen] € ***and clothed them <03847> (8686). [03847 labash {law-bash'} or labesh {law-bashe'} 1) to dress, wear, clothe, put on clothing, be clothed 1c) (Hiphil) to clothe, array with, dress] God didn't ask them if they wanted to be clothed. He sovereignly clothed them. This is obviously His will for people in public. So the nudist clubs and groups of the world exist in defiance of the will of God. Ex 28:42 And you shall make them linen breeches to cover the naked flesh; from the loins even to the thighs they shall reach. 2Ch 28:15 And the men who were called by name rose up and took the captives and clothed all that were naked among them with the plunder, and dressed them, and shod them, 2Co 5:3 if indeed [in] being clothed, we shall not be found naked. Re 16:15* Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed [is] the [one] who watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame. ****ON THE OTHER HAND Isa 3:17 therefore the LORD will strike with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the LORD will make their secret parts naked. Isa 32:11 Tremble, women at ease; be troubled, careless ones; strip yourselves and make yourselves bare, and bind [sackcloth] on your loins. Isaiah 47: 1 ¶ Come down, and sit on the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground. [There is] no throne [for you], O daughter of the Chaldeans. For you shall no more be called tender and delicate. 2 Take the millstones and grind meal. Push back your veil, draw up your skirt, uncover your leg, pass over the rivers. 3 Your nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, your shame shall be seen; I will take vengeance and I will not meet [you as] a man. Jer 13:26 So I also have stripped off your skirts over your face, that your shame may appear. Ho 2:3 lest I strip her naked and set her out as in the day that she was born; and lest I make her as the wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst. € ***Eze 16:7 I have caused you to multiply like the bud of the field, and you are grown, and you are great; and you come [in] the finest ornaments. [Your] breasts <07699> are formed <03559> (8738), [07699 shad {shad} or shod {shode} 1) breast, bosom, (female) breast] [03559 kuwn {koon} 1) to be firm, be stable, be established 1a) (Niphal) 1a1) to be set up, be established, be fixed 1a1a) to be firmly established 1a1b) to be established, be stable, be secure, be enduring 1a1c) to be fixed, be securely determined 1a2) to be directed aright, be fixed aright, be steadfast (moral sense) 1a3) to prepare, be ready 1a4) to be prepared, be arranged, be settled] € ***and hair is grown, yet you [were] naked <05903> [05903 `eyrom {ay-rome'} or `erom {ay-rome'} adj1) naked; n m2) nakedness] This is the idea of having no clothes or garments on. She was naked, not having any clothes or garments on. € ***and bare.<06181> [06181 `eryah {er-yaw'} 1) nudity, nakedness] This is the idea of being open to view, exposed, laid bare. She was not only naked, but she was naked and open to view, exposed, laid bare. So the question is not "Can she be naked/nude/uncovered [unclothed, stripped] but not bare/exposed/open/nude?" God's and Adam's solution for their being naked and bare was to cover their loins (crotch, genital, leg thigh juncture). God's will is that, in public, we not be naked and bare, rather He wants us to be clothed. God's will is for models, posing for photographs or artists, to not be naked and bare, but to have their loins ***10 I clothed <03847> (8686) thee also with broidered work [03847 labash {law-bash'} or labesh {law-bashe'} 1) to dress, wear, clothe, put on clothing, be clothed 1c) (Hiphil) to clothe, array with, dress] *** <07553>, and shod <05274> (8799) thee with badgers' skin <08476>, and I girded <02280> (8799) thee about with fine [02280 chabash {khaw-bash'} 1) to tie, bind, bind on, bind up, saddle, restrain, bandage, govern 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to bind, bind on 1a2) to bind up] ***linen <08336>, and I covered <03680> (8762) thee with silk <04897>. [03680 kacah {kaw-saw'} 1) to cover, conceal, hide 1c) (Piel) 1c1) to cover, clothe 1c2) to cover, conceal 1c3) to cover (for protection) 1c4) to cover over, spread over 1c5) to cover, overwhelm] Eze 16:22 And in all your hateful deeds and your fornications you have not remembered the days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, [and] squirming in your blood. Eze 16:39 And I will also give you into their hand, and they will tear down your mound, and will demolish your high places. They shall also strip <06584> (8689) [06584 pashat {paw-shat'} 1) to strip, invade, strip off, make a dash, raid, spread out 1c) (Hiphil) 1c1) to strip of] 1c2) to strip off 1c3) to flay thee also of thy clothes <0899>, and shall take your beautiful things, and leave you naked <05903> and bare <06181>. Eze 23:29 And they shall deal with you in hatred, and shall take away all your labor, and shall leave you naked and bare. And the nakedness of your fornications shall be uncovered, both your wickedness and your fornications. Le 20:19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister, nor of thy father's sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity. APPENDIX OF FOOTNOTES (STRONG'S ETC.) 7901 See above 0160 'ahabahStrong's {a-hab-aw}f of 0158; TWOT - 29c; n f 1) love [+Y's] 1a) human love for human object 1a1) of man toward man 1a2) of man toward himself 1a3) between man and woman 1a4) sexual desire 2) God's love to His people 1331 masculine pl. of the same as 01330; n f 1) virginity Young's + Davidson/Bagster: Tokens [proofs] of virginity 1540 galah Strong's {gaw-law'} a primitive root; v 1) to uncover, remove 1c) (Piel 8765, 8840) 1c1) to uncover (nakedness) 1c1a) nakedness 1c2) to disclose, discover, lay bare 1c3) to make known, show, reveal 1717 dad Strong's {dad} apparently from the same as 01730; n m 1) breast [+Y's], nipple, teat [+Y's] Davidson/Bagster: breasts, the two breasts of a woman 2233 zera`Strong's {zeh'-rah}from 02232; n m 1) seed, sowing, offspring 1a) a sowing 1b) seed [ also Youngs] 1c) semen, virile [Davidson/Bagster: I. seed; III. issue, progeny] 02781 cherpah {kher-paw'}from 02778;n f 1) reproach, scorn 1b) reproach (resting upon condition of shame, disgrace) 1c) a reproach (an object) 2834 chasaph {khaw-saf'}a primitive root; v 1) to strip, strip off, lay bare, make bare 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to strip off 1a2) to strip, lay bare 2930 tame' Strong's {taw-may'}a primitive root; v 1) to be unclean [+Y's], become unclean [+Y's], become impure 1b) (Niphal 8738) 1b1) to defile oneself, be defiled 1b1a) sexually 1b2) to be regarded as unclean Tyler: Almost all fluids of the body could make Israelites ceremonially unclean, affecting their worship and participation in temple activities. The uncleanness issue apparently was dealt with in Acts 10 and 11 with Ephes. 2 and Colos. 2, so that bodily fluids, especially sexual fluids, do not affect our ability to worship the Lord or participate in Church activities. 4600 ma`ak Strong's {maw-ak'} a primitive root; v 1) to press, squeeze 1b) (Pual 8795, 8849) to be handled, be pressed [+Davidson/Bagster] Young's: to be bruised. 4726 maqowr Strong's {maw-kore'} or maqor Strong's {maw-kore'} from 06979; TWOT - 2004a; n m 1) spring, fountain [+Davidson/Bagster] 1c) source (of menstruous blood) 1d) flow (of blood after child birth) Tyler: of the vulva/vagina/penis/nipple 4904 mishkab Strong's {mish-kawb'} from 07901; n m 1) a lying down, couch, bier, act of lying 1a) couch, bed 1b) act of lying, lying down or sleeping room, bedroom 1c) lying down (for sexual contact) For sure this includes contact with the vulva/breasts, but this is vague enough to include contact with the penis as well. 5079 niddah Strong's {nid-daw'}from 05074; n f 1) impurity, filthiness, menstruous, set apart 1a) impurity 1a1) of ceremonial impurity 1a2) of menstruation Young's: impurity, separation Tyler: This probably includes the vulva's lubricating and orgasmic fluids. 5414 Strong's <5414. (8799) <7903> 05414 nathanStrong's {naw-than'} a primitive root; v 1) to give, put, set [sexual copulation] 1a) (Qal 8799) 1a1) to give, bestow, grant, permit, ascribe, employ, devote, consecrate, dedicate, pay wages, sell, exchange, lend, commit, entrust, give over, deliver up, yield produce, occasion, produce, requite to, report, mention, utter, stretch out, extend [sexual copulation] 1a2) to put, set, put on, put upon, set, appoint, assign, designate [sexual copulation] 1a3) to make, constitute [sexual copulation] 6031 `anah Strong's {aw-naw'}a primitive root [possibly rather ident. with 06030 through the idea of looking down or browbeating]; v 2) to afflict [+Y's], oppress, humble [+Y's], be afflicted, be bowed down 2c) (Piel 8762) 2c1) to humble, mishandle, afflict 2c2) to humble, be humiliated 2c3) to afflict 2d4) to humble, weaken oneself Davidson/Bagster: I. humbled, afflicted; to oppress, subdue, afflict, humble;. --II. afflicted; had connexion with a woman; to sexually ravish a woman] 6168 `arah Strong's {aw-raw'} a primitive root; TWOT - 1692; v 1) to be bare, be nude, uncover, leave destitute, discover, empty, raze, pour out 1b) (Hiphil 8689, 8818) 1b1) to make naked, strip bare (of sexual offences) [+Y's] 6172 `ervah Strong's {er-vaw'}from 06168; TWOT - 1692b; n f 1) nakedness, nudity, shame, pudenda [nudity of external genital/vulva] 1a) pudenda (implying shameful exposure) 1b) nakedness of a thing, indecency, improper behaviour 6213 `asah Strong's {aw-saw'}a primitive root; TWOT - 1708,1709; v 2) (Piel 8840, 8765) to press, squeeze [+Davidson/Bagster; also pressed, injured] Young's: do, make 06777 tsammah {tsam-maw'}from an unused root meaning to fasten on; n f 1) veil, woman's veil 7250 raba`Strong's {raw-bah'}a primitive root; v 1) to lie stretched out, lie down 1a) (Qal 8800) 1a1) to lie down [+Y's] 1a1b) for copulation (of woman with beast) 7301 ravah Strong's {raw-vaw'} a primitive root; TWOT - 2130; v 1) to be satiated or saturated, have or drink one's fill 1b) (Piel 8762, 8840) 1b1) to be drunk, be intoxicated 1b2) to drench, water abundantly, saturate Young's: water, satiate 07640 shebel {show'-bel}from an unused root meaning to flow; n m 1) flowing skirt, train 07686 shagahStrong's {shaw-gaw'}a primitive root; v 1) to go astray, stray, err 1a) (Qal 8799, 8851) 1a1) to err, stray 1a2) to swerve, meander, reel, roll, be intoxicated, err (in drunkenness) 1a3) to go astray (morally) 1a4) to commit sin of ignorance or inadvertence, err (ignorantly) Young's: to err, go astray, magnify self [erection?] Davidson/Bagster: I. to wander, go astray.---II. to err, sin through ignorance 07785 showq {shoke}from 07783; n f 1) leg, thigh 7902 shekabah Strong's {shek-aw-baw'}from 07901; n f 1) act of lying, layer, coating 1a) act of lying (of sexual relations) Youngs: Effusion Davidson/Bagster: the act of lying with Tyler: Effusion means sperm ejaculation, especially the sperm entering another body cavity. For sure this includes sexual/sensual actions involving the vulva/breasts, but the effusion/layer/coating meaning could also include sperm on the hands from genital petting, sperm in the mouth or anus, or sperm on any part of either of their bodies. 7903 shekobeth Strong's {shek-o'-beth}from 07901; n f 1) copulation [FunkWagnall: 1. sexual intercourse/connection; coition. 2. A coupling or being coupled; union] Young's: To give an effusion [sperm ejaculation